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If Buttigieg is the nominee, I expect an even easier path to victory for President Trump. Black voters won't up their turnout for him. And I don't see how he wins over white working class voters from President Trump.
I think he'd win non-evangelical white working class voters. Buttigeig as the nominee however will really drive evangelical turnout for Trump. As far as the black vote, I think they would come around.
Dear. I'm glad you are interested in my positions. Maybe you will take lesson. I have not sold myself out to a single party. You know this.
Pete Buttigieg is the Democrat's dream candidate on paper. His only issues seems to be with Black Democrats. Likewise they seem to be the only ones here posting against him.
The actions speak for themselves.
Should I take lesson, you think?
It's truly AHHMAZING how you are able to discern the race of all the posters here on CD.
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Originally Posted by Valhallian
Honestly, the nonplussed reaction of centrist liberals on here when it comes to Pete's deception reveals their hypocrisy and partisanship, and in that sense proves many of the right wingers on here right about how often the left is equally biased and partisan as the right. We're all happy to point out what a lying flip-flopper Mitt Romney is, and to go after Lindsey Graham for speaking out of both sides of his mouth. But we don't hold Pete to the same standard?
Why, because he has a nice personality? Is it because he happens to be advocating for at least some positions that some people like, so if you currently agree with him, you're just not going to think about the fact that he might change it again at any moment? Just because a candidate flops to a position you currently hold doesn't make him trustworthy.
***I'll add that this is all notwithstanding the fact that his campaign as is merely represents a continuation of the corrupt crony capitalism that plagues our political system.
I'm ok with his position change because it happens to be the policy I want. I don't want radical overthrow of our insurance system. I want a Medicare option and IF that works . . well, then let's take another look at Medicare for all.
The right continue to bring up Mayor Pete's sexual orientation but he won't fit the bill if he was a woman, minority, immigrant, Muslim etc. They believe their party should continue on the majority older, white male path. The left welcomes diversity. The debate stage shows it.
I think he'd win non-evangelical white working class voters. Buttigeig as the nominee however will really drive evangelical turnout for Trump. As far as the black vote, I think they would come around.
In the primary most of the white working class vote is going to Biden or Sanders depending on voters age. Buttegeig's rise is mostly driven by older white professionals. What makes you think it will be different in the general?
In the primary most of the white working class vote is going to Biden or Sanders depending on voters age. Buttegeig's rise is mostly driven by older white professionals. What makes you think it will be different in the general?
Because most Biden/Sanders voters will vote for whoever the D nominee ends up being and if it's Buttigeig, they will vote for him.
Because most Biden/Sanders voters will vote for whoever the D nominee ends up being and if it's Buttigeig, they will vote for him.
In 2016 some of the white working class voters in the upper Midwest who had voted for Obama went for Trump because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a Wall Street centrist. You really think Buttigieg is the one to get them back?
In 2016 some of the white working class voters in the upper Midwest who had voted for Obama went for Trump because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a Wall Street centrist. You really think Buttigieg is the one to get them back?
It’s all about building coalitions. Someone like Bernie or Warren would equally struggle bringing over moderates. They inspire some people, but they also don’t inspire a lot of others at all. Why do you think people wouldn’t just sit at home and not vote the same way they did for Hillary?
In 2016 some of the white working class voters in the upper Midwest who had voted for Obama went for Trump because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a Wall Street centrist. You really think Buttigieg is the one to get them back?
Why wouldn't white working class voters of the mid-West identify with a white working class man from Indiana? They are a lot closer to Pete Buttigieg than they would be to any leftist elite from either coast. And especially one who has gotten rich by selling them out for the last 40 years.
If Democrats are REALLY interested in winning back parts of the electorate, Pete Buttigieg stands a chance of it. Else they are going to be left with block voting African Americans (not that I didn't say all Blacks) and the truly crazy fringes on the left. This won't win them the Presidency.
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