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Old 05-23-2020, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Obama is tied with Bush as the worst of the modern era.

Trump is the greatest of all time compared to those duds
It's pretty much the exact opposite of what you wrote, except again, I put Obama middle of the pack. Neither near the top nor bottom. And as much as I hated W, he's like George Washington compared to tRump, and I never thought I'd say that!
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Old 05-23-2020, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I subscribe to the theory that Biden has a chance of having the worst defeat by a democrat since Dukakis in 1988
^lolololol, keep dreaming. Reality it will be close, like 280 to 260 ish or even 290 to 250 ish in favor of Biden. tRump will only do as good as he will because 30% of the electorate is under his spell and too far gone. It's the independents who will swing it just into Biden's favor
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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^lolololol, keep dreaming. Reality it will be close, like 280 to 260 ish or even 290 to 250 ish in favor of Biden. tRump will only do as good as he will because 30% of the electorate is under his spell and too far gone. It's the independents who will swing it just into Biden's favor
Independents of course will favor Biden in Blue States, but that doesn't win Biden the election.
Independents in places like Florida control the election.
And in 2018, Republicans won Florida Governorship and Senate, and Trump's RCP average approval rating sunk to 40.1 in September of 2018!
In fact based on history alone its unlikely Biden wins the Presidency if he loses Florida, because the last 2 candidates to win a General Election without Florida were Clinton92 and JFK60.
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:06 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Independents of course will favor Biden in Blue States, but that doesn't win Biden the election.
Independents in places like Florida control the election.
And in 2018, Republicans won Florida Governorship and Senate, and Trump's RCP average approval rating sunk to 40.1 in September of 2018!
In fact based on history alone its unlikely Biden wins the Presidency if he loses Florida, because the last 2 candidates to win a General Election without Florida were Clinton92 and JFK60.
If I remember correctly, were not the Governor and Senate elections won by very slim margins and under much different circumstances?
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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If I remember correctly, were not the Governor and Senate elections won by very slim margins and under much different circumstances?
Yes, both 2018 elections in Florida were extremely close with the Republican candidate barely coming out ahead. Florida is hardly a guaranteed win for Trump especially given how much the electorate is constantly changing in that state. As we've learned since, Gillum was actually a very flawed nominee ... and Nelson failed to campaign strongly enough against the outgoing governor (Scott).

Governor

Ron DeSantis Jeanette Nunez Republican 4,076,186 49.59%
Andrew Gillum Chris King Democratic 4,043,723 49.19%

Senate

Rick Scott Republican 4,099,505 50.05%
Bill Nelson Democratic 4,089,472 49.93%
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Every presidential election with an incumbent is a referendum on the incumbent.

1980: Carter was an unpopular prez with a sagging economy.

1984: Reagan was a popular prez with a rebounding economy.

2020: tRump is a highly unpopular prez with the worst economy in generations.

I won't bother to mention his foolish mismanagement of the pandemic.

Carry on.

So young and foolish.
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I'll say it again, Biden won't be a candidate come November.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Donald Trump has a greater chance of not being a candidate come November than does Biden.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Biden may have a small shot to take one of those 3 states. He may have a shot.

Biden cannot logically form a sentence to inform folks what COVID is. How can Biden lead us out of this economic disaster, post-COVID?

Biden is not only exhibiting dementia, he's also corrupt, has 50 years+ of DC swamp experience and has sexual predator allegations swirling around him.

Biden ain't winning.
he’ll win Michigan and Pennsylvania, I’d bet good money on it.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:47 PM
 
Location: 404
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he’ll win Michigan and Pennsylvania, I’d bet good money on it.
I would take that bet if I had a higher opinion of money.
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