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Old 08-24-2020, 09:38 PM
 
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So far every Democrat action has been to stop Trump or try to remove him from office but they aren't playing to beat Trump.

- Why impeach Trump when they knew he's not going to be removed by the Senate?

- Why put Joe Biden as the nominee when they know he's not the future?

- Why stall the unemployment benefits stimulus when they knew Trump will sign an executive order to push things through.

- Why going after Steven Bannon instead of stopping the protestors and rioters? No matter how corrupt Trump's buddies are, he's got the ability to write a pardon for all of his associates.

When Trump wins re-election, all these states that battled him will be on their knees.

Biden is simple un-electable, there are plenty of doubters within the Democrats. So it will be a bigger victory for Trump than against Clinton who is much stronger candidate than Biden. AOC already publicly stated she's backing Bernie. Because Biden is a horrible candidate, the worst the Dems ever put up in 40 years.
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Old 08-25-2020, 12:57 AM
 
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Biden's just the Trojan horse to secure Kamala the presidency.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:10 AM
 
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Biden's just the Trojan horse to secure Kamala the presidency.
Which is pretty sad consider her record as a CA prosecutor, she has put many innocent blacks behind bars by tainting evident to get a quick guilty verdict. She's not the worst candidate but she's not the best the Dems field offered. I know a lot of Dem supporters here are oblivious to the fact but a simple search of her past records she's won conviction of many verdicts that were against innocent blacks.

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Old 08-25-2020, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I think the Democrats have been working a scorched earth strategy since Trump dared to poke his head into the DC bubble and win the election.



He is an outsider that is beholden to no one. He is just what the Founding Fathers envisioned for our Government. They never could have foreseen the career politician and they certainly would not have approved of the likes of Biden and Pelosi feeding at the public trough for decades and getting further out of touch with the common citizen as the years pass.





The Democrats have been trying to destroy Trump from every angle and their media has been undermining him and the people around him 24/7.


I really doubt that we will ever see another rich Republican throw his hat into the political ring out of concern for the future of our nation and its people that way Trump did. Who would want to take on the non stop abuse to become the worlds punching bag?

The Dems have sent a message that they will destroy anyone that dares.



If Biden wins I also believe that the Dems will get to work to ensure that we will never see another Republican in the WH.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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As an independent, I predicted Trump will win against Clinton. That was a much harder win, since there were many more negatives against him running against an experienced political insider. While we can speculate that Clinton was a flawed candidate after the fact. She had multiple pluses against Trump that Biden doesn't have.

- We knew blacks are gonna vote primarily for Dems. That was the case in 2016 but polls and sentiments are showing that more blacks will vote for Trump this time than 2016.

- Majority of women picked Dems and Clinton. Trump had 23% of white female votes in 2016. Without Clinton, it's unlike Biden will have a stronger women support than Clinton did in 2016.

- The stock market usually favors the sitting President. So if the market doesn't nose dive in 3 months and erase all the gains. He is assured a victory.


https://markets.businessinsider.com/...-6-1029351214#

"When the S&P 500 has been higher the 3 months before the election, the incumbent party usually won, while when stocks were lower, the incumbent party usually lost," Detrick said in a note published on Monday.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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Democrats continued unhinged tactics will backfire, they are running scared and desperate. . . .Another supreme court pick will tilt the balance for decades.

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Old 08-25-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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I've never seen one man make so many seasoned politicians turn into political basket cases.

Pelosi knew impeachment was a disaster politically for them, but she did it anyway. Now they run the risk of the ultimate rebuke...and impeached pres wins re-election!

They all knew there was no Russia collusion, but they went along with it anyway knowing the ultimate outcome would look terrible for them

They all know Biden is a weak candidate that is not part of the future, but their main criteria is "beat Trump."

Trump must be doing something right if all these swamp creatures turn into bumbling idiots.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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vision33r;58988943]So far every Democrat action has been to stop Trump or try to remove him from office but they aren't playing to beat Trump.

- Why impeach Trump when they knew he's not going to be removed by the Senate?
Because you try to do the right thing even if it doesn't always work out. Not every murderer is convicted. Does that mean no murderer should be put on trial?

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- Why put Joe Biden as the nominee when they know he's not the future?
Democratic voters put Biden as the nominee. He was the least controversial choice, and arguably the challenger Trump wanted the least. He hasn't been able to use his 5th grade attacks on Biden like he could with other candidates. Nothing is sticking to Biden, and that's why Trump and his supporters have reverted to making up lies about his health- similar to what they did with Clinton. They have nothing else.

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- Why stall the unemployment benefits stimulus when they knew Trump will sign an executive order to push things through.
Except no one is going to ever see those benefits, in all likelihood. Trump can't unilaterally disseminate federal funding- that's up to Congress. It's a breach of the Constitution's separation of powers. Furthermore, there is no existing system for the states to handle this. Without Congress, no one is getting any money. Trump is just banking on enough people being dumb enough not to know any of that.

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- Why going after Steven Bannon instead of stopping the protestors and rioters? No matter how corrupt Trump's buddies are, he's got the ability to write a pardon for all of his associates.
Rioters and looters are being arrested. Protesting is constitutional. Steve Bannon broke the law by defrauding people out of their money using fear to motivate people to donate to the stupid wall. Trump supporters are perfect rubes for such schemes, and grifters like Bannon took advantage.

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When Trump wins re-election, all these states that battled him will be on their knees.
So your idea of the presidency is an authoritarian dictatorship that demands fealty and punishes dissent? So you're anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-Democracy.

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Biden is simple un-electable, there are plenty of doubters within the Democrats. So it will be a bigger victory for Trump than against Clinton who is much stronger candidate than Biden. AOC already publicly stated she's backing Bernie. Because Biden is a horrible candidate, the worst the Dems ever put up in 40 years.
Biden is most certainly electable. There are a lot more people who hate Trump than worship him. It will come down to turnout like always, and hopefully there will be few problems with mail-in and in-person voting like Republicans desperately are trying to cause. Trump can win as well, and I would never discount human stupidity. After all, it won't be an asteroid or virus or aliens that bring about our end- it will be our own BS stupidity.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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As an independent, I predicted Trump will win against Clinton. That was a much harder win, since there were many more negatives against him running against an experienced political insider. While we can speculate that Clinton was a flawed candidate after the fact. She had multiple pluses against Trump that Biden doesn't have.

- We knew blacks are gonna vote primarily for Dems. That was the case in 2016 but polls and sentiments are showing that more blacks will vote for Trump this time than 2016.

- Majority of women picked Dems and Clinton. Trump had 23% of white female votes in 2016. Without Clinton, it's unlike Biden will have a stronger women support than Clinton did in 2016.

- The stock market usually favors the sitting President. So if the market doesn't nose dive in 3 months and erase all the gains. He is assured a victory.


https://markets.businessinsider.com/...-6-1029351214#

"When the S&P 500 has been higher the 3 months before the election, the incumbent party usually won, while when stocks were lower, the incumbent party usually lost," Detrick said in a note published on Monday.
This is all revisionist nonsense. Clinton was arguably one of the most viscerally hated Democrats ever, not only by conservatives, but by many within her own party. A lot of Democrats and liberals stayed home or went 3rd party and ended up helping Trump. She had decades and decades of baggage- a lot of it manufactured by the Right- that worked against everything she did. Beyond that, though, the Comey October surprise, along with campaign mistakes like ignoring some swing states, led Trump to a narrow victory despite losing the popular vote by one of the largest margins in history.

Biden has none of that baggage. Furthermore, the state of the nation now is far worse than it was in 2016. Trump owns that. His supporters would vote for him even if Trump caused a nuclear holocaust in which everyone they knew ended up irradiated zombies, but most people know the score. It all depends on who shows up at the polling places, though.

Biden is still winning the vast majority of black people, as well as all other racial minority groups. And he's very likely going to win women by a greater margin than Clinton did.

I'm not sure if the stock market has much relevance in this election. It's likely one of those correlation, not causation situations where every other time, the stock market and the rest of the economy were both doing well, but that is not the case this time at all. The stock market is doing well despite the rest of the economy being a trash fire. It's completely detached from reality. When most Americans aren't invested in the stock market, will they care about its performance if the rest of the economy is not doing well?
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:38 AM
 
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nope she is the mattress pad for the real power in DC - she will be on her knees for 4 yrs serving the power mungers of the left
I'm curious if conservatives believe it is possible for a woman to ascend to power in any situation without sleeping with someone. I can't imagine how you all treat your wives.
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