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If I live in an apartment building i can't burn my bedding and wardrobe in my bedroom.
Why? because that decision effects other people.
This is a slippery slope, once you begin, there's no stopping and you can apply that everywhere and in the name of safety. Might as well make us wear masks forever to protect the 300,000 a year worldwide who die from the seasonal flu
Bottom line, is that if you're high risk, stay at home. Or not, and suffer the consequences. Personal responsibility. The reality is, living in a free society has a risk. Get over it.
I believe that individuals have the freedom to make these decisions for themselves. I reject the nanny state. As an adult, I moved out of my parents' house long, long ago.
Right, so let's think about this.
If you had an extremely infectious disease, like say tuberculosis, do you think you should be free to go to a crowded concert, knowing that you were going to infect people?
My guess is no.
What you are really arguing for is the right to expose other people to a highly contagious disease that has already killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, and you might not even know you have it. Where exactly is that right guaranteed?
You have a freedom of speech, but you don't have a right to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. The government can, and should, limit certain freedoms if they become public health necessities.
Lastly, do you really think that your "right" to not wear a mask is so important that hundreds of thousands of people should die so that you can maintain this "right"?
This is a slippery slope, once you begin, there's no stopping and you can apply that everywhere and in the name of safety. Might as well make us wear masks forever to protect the 300,000 a year worldwide who die from the seasonal flu
A slippery slope is a logical fallacy. Directly pointing to it as justification is inherently fallacious. There are all sorts of things that should be illegal because of their severity. That doesn't mean we are suddenly on a path to making the mundane illegal.
If you had an extremely infectious disease, like say tuberculosis, do you think you should be free to go to a crowded concert, knowing that you were going to infect people?
One shouldn't that's for sure. Just as if you're COVID+, you shouldn't go out if you're infected yourself or high risk. However, and again, we live in a free society. We cannot prevent people from legally moving about freely and accepting the risks that go along with doing so. Yes, there are risks and casualties associated with living in a free society, which I am comfortable with accepting.
North Korea is the safest country on the planet. No petty crime. You'd need to try to get hit by a car. I know; I've actually been there myself (Pyongyang and Kaesong)...But does anyone want to live there?
Our founding fathers told us over 200 years ago of the dangers of removing freedom in the name of safety.
One shouldn't that's for sure. Just as if you're COVID+, you shouldn't go out if you're infected yourself or high risk. However, and again, we live in a free society.
We don't live in a society that allows you to freely knowingly expose other people to tuberculosis. Get real.
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We cannot prevent people from legally moving about freely and accepting the risks that go along with doing so. Yes, there are risks and casualties associated with living in a free society, which I am comfortable with accepting.
You are stacking the deck in your phrasing of "We cannot prevent people from legally...."
Of course not. But we can make it illegal to do so without a mask on. You are acting as though these risks are inherent and unavoidable. They aren't. If you wear a mask, the risk significantly drops for everyone involved, which is why we need mask mandates.
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North Korea is the safest country on the planet. No petty crime. You'd need to try to get hit by a car. I know; I've actually been there myself (Pyongyang and Kaesong)...But does anyone want to live there?
No, North Korea is not the safest country on the planet. And what you are effectively arguing is that people shouldn't be required to wear seatbelts because limiting all of their freedoms would be bad. Again, you are engaging in a slippery slope fallacy.
One shouldn't that's for sure. Just as if you're COVID+, you shouldn't go out if you're infected yourself or high risk. However, and again, we live in a free society. We cannot prevent people from legally moving about freely and accepting the risks that go along with doing so. Yes, there are risks and casualties associated with living in a free society, which I am comfortable with accepting.
North Korea is the safest country on the planet. No petty crime. You'd need to try to get hit by a car. I know; I've actually been there myself (Pyongyang and Kaesong)...But does anyone want to live there?
Our founding fathers told us over 200 years ago of the dangers of removing freedom in the name of safety.
Sure we have rules. You can’t enter a store without pants. And that doesn’t even endanger people at all.
Today I learned that a free society is one in which a person with Tuberculosis should be legally allowed to intentionally go spread that to all of his fellow citizens without repercussion.
Today I learned that a free society is one in which a person with Tuberculosis should be legally allowed to intentionally go spread that to all of his fellow citizens without repercussion.
One of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on City-Data -- and that is saying a LOT.
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