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"Not voting for the felon or sleepy Joe."
(set 9 days ago)
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Minethatbird
Did you miss the nearly 4 hour presentation to the Pennsylvania legislators which clearly demonstrated massive fraud.
As to courts. Funny thing, our founders didn't leave elector selection up to courts, or the executive branch, or to federal law, it exclusively allows the legislature of each state to determine who the electors are. This power has no effective limit, other than electors must be named by December 8. Prior rules or laws do not bind the state legislatures, they are given this as an unrestricted power directly from the Constitution. Courts are not needed or involved.
None of what you say is ever going to happen but hey one can fantasize I guess.
Apparently the Pennsylvania legislature is going to meet in a special session to select electors. This due to a belief the election results are corrupt as a result of a recent hearing about the election. They are a Republican majority in both houses, and the Constitution vests final power to select electors with each state legislature.
This will flip Pennsylvania to Trump. Expect to see similar things happening in Arizona, Georgia and Michigan.
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"Not voting for the felon or sleepy Joe."
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Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Maryclaire
There is more than one way to skin a cat...thanks to our authors of the Constitution. They knew there would be corruption in every branch so they gave us a remedy. On to ARIZONA!
Here is how things work in AZ. Sorry to burst your bubble.
1. You cant call a special session without 2/3 of the Senate and House. (Not going to happen)
2. The Governor could call a special session.
3. But any change to election law requires 2/3 of legislature in order to take place immediately- not going to happen.
Trump devotees can’t discern the difference between a legal case presented in court and a campaign event by Rudy designed to keep their hopes alive for the purpose of continued fund raising.
It’s all about the grift. It’s always been about the grift.
PA Electors have already been selected, legislature is out of session until next year (after the EC votes in Biden).
Only the governor can authorize a special session, and he’s a democrat.
This thread is completely false made-up bull****.
A session is needed to legislate, not to select electors. A majority of each house is needed to convene and select electors. This is a direct authority from the the U.S. Constitution and is not bound by state Constitution or state or federal law. Electors currently certified can be decertified by a state legislature and a different slate installed as certified. This must be done by December 8, it does not involve any court or any governor.
The power is not limited to "in session" or "out of session" or "if called by governor". It is a direct power given by the U.S. Constitution only to state legislatures and only regarding selection of electors for President and Vice President.
The Mockingbird feature of Hammer requires the majority of a controlled population to respect only hammer selected authorities.
Regardless the Pennsylvania Legislature will meet on Monday, and will decide if it wishes to change the electors, if it does, the only limit is the electors be selected by December 8, 2020. A resolution declaring the election in doubt, and the certification in doubt, then directing certification of electors as directed is within each state legislature's power. Decertification by the state legislature is more appropriate than by a court as each state legislature is given sole authority over elector selection. It is also binding. The legislature isn't bound to allow a fraudulent election to stand. The evidence of fraud is overwhelming. A fraudulent election is not binding on electors a state legislature will send to Congress.
If the evidence of fraud is so overwhelming why doesn't the court have any of it?
Trump devotees can’t discern the difference between a legal case presented in court and a campaign event by Rudy designed to keep their hopes alive for the purpose of continued fund raising.
It’s all about the grift. It’s always been about the grift.
It makes me wonder if they just grumble into the darkness after they finally realize that this is going nowhere or if they realize that they were conned.
I guess the people on the forum who have moved on to “It’s too late to do anything, but the Dems are still cheaters even though we can’t prove it” are probably the model.
Okay, even if Pennsylvania legislators go full fascist and toss out the voter's will, Biden still wins 286-252. All of the other Biden states are certified and locked down. What's the point?
And you don’t think other states are going to look at this election more closely?
It’s already underway in PA, GA, WI, NV, and AZ.
There is no way the results hold up. A simple one is GA, in which 100% of the military votes from Fulton Co were switched to Biden. They have appealed to ANY voters there to see if any voted for Trump.
There are just too many loose ends for the dems to tie up. It’s just a matter of time. Even if “The Electoral Votes” go for Joe Dec 14th, they can be reversed via litigation.
Keep in mind that Jill Stein won the right to examine the voting machine source code, which is available to Trump. They have the Dominion servers, witnesses from Dominion, and probably lay the cEO in custody.
Here is how things work in AZ. Sorry to burst your bubble.
1. You cant call a special session without 2/3 of the Senate and House. (Not going to happen)
2. The Governor could call a special session.
3. But any change to election law requires 2/3 of legislature in order to take place immediately- not going to happen.
The authority is from the U.S. Constitution. No state law, state Constitution restriction can limit it. The state legislatures decide who electors will be. There is no limit about 2/3 vote, in session, out of session, or called by governor or court. The power is a direct grant from the U.S. Constitution to each state legislature regarding selection of Presidential and Vice Presidential electors. It has nothing to do with ordinary state legislative business. They can't transact any other business, but there is no limit imposed by this direct Constitutional grant of power to the state legislatures.
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