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Old 05-16-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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To be fair, Muhammed did have at least one child bride.
And to be equally fair, Barnette's grandparents Christian views were likely a large part of why her mom was told to marry the man who raped her at 11 and conceived Kathy Barnette. I can definitely see having been born to a 11-year-old who was raped and then forced to marry her rapist would leave an imprint. Not many people are coming from religious fundamentalist upbringings that are so strict. The bible does say that if a man rapes a virgin he is to pay the bride price and take her as his wife. But really, do you have daughters? If someone raped your 11-year-old daughter would you force her to marry him? Probably not. Barnette's grandparents did. As much as you seem to identify as a fundamentalist Baptist based on the screen name, I really doubt you're THAT fundamentalist. Or maybe you are in which case you really wouldn't have any problem with child brides as it's just literally what the bible commands.

Neither religion bother me per se, but some people I think take it to far and Barnette's case is too far. I'm really hesitant to involve the government in telling people how to raise their kids but when they start forcing them into marriages with rapists at 11-12 I'm there in that someone needs to step in.

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Old 05-16-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Dr. Oz, who would become America's 1st Muslim Senator, called his Republican opponent's anti-Islam tweet "defamatory"...

‘Reprehensible’: Oz condemns GOP opponent’s tweet on Islam - AP
Note he did not refute the charge, he just criticized her. SOP for folks with no ammo in their holster.
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Old 05-16-2022, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Again, what are you actually arguing here ????

Im not debating the life of Jesús or Muhammad. Im saying both text allow child marriage, and indeed they do. And Christianity has practiced it for 2000 years.
And still do here in America. Thankfully not in large numbers though.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Well Russia is the same regarding legal rape. .
Is OZ Russian? Why do people have to bring up everything else to justify bad behavior.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Neither religion bother me per se, but some people I think take it to far and Barnette's case is too far. I'm really hesitant to involve the government in telling people how to raise their kids but when they start forcing them into marriages with rapists at 11-12 I'm there in that someone needs to step in.
Why kill he baby if you're mad at at the rapist?
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Note he did not refute the charge, he just criticized her. SOP for folks with no ammo in their holster.
Oz has been on radio talk shows in Philly and when he was asked this question, his answers were that they have a chapel in their house and he seeks guidance from the Bible. The closest he came to saying he is a Moslem was that his parents are Turkish and 99% of Turks are Moslem. He keeps saying he is proud of his faith but doesn't say what it is. If he wins, that's all we'll be talking about.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:54 PM
 
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Why kill he baby if you're mad at at the rapist?
Because we don’t enslave women as baby making machines. You want to keep the baby, extract the fertilized egg and implant it in a woman who wants a child bad enough to accept the dad being a rapist.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:39 PM
 
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I really had no opinion at all on Dr. Oz until now. But as soon as anyone starts hurling an XXX-phobia BS word, that's it. I'm done, unless it was a sarcastic response to an earlier XXX-phobia bleat. That is leftist cant. And if you are going to go out of your way to sound like a leftist, I don't want you in power.
If you examine what the opponent said and her explanation you will soon see that she made inappropriate comments and that her alibi is a crock. Oz was right on this one.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:43 PM
 
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I guess I now know who to vote for.
You'd vote for or against a person based on the candidate's religion? Welcome to 1960!
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Old 05-17-2022, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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You'd vote for or against a person based on the candidate's religion? Welcome to 1960!
It is a rational choice, if that religion preaches world domination (Dar es Salaam) as its goal.
And, no, you can't reform Islam - that's a capital offense - as is leaving Islam.
(Few historians will dare admit that the "Dark Ages" were the result of Muslim destruction of the Christian dominion over the Mediterranean Sea, N. Africa and the Middle East, and incessant slave raids on coastal cities.)
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