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Old 06-23-2022, 02:07 PM
 
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If she is a typical Republican, I guess Wyoming is tired of her a$$ and she is toast. Maybe they had enough of the Cheney doctrine republicanism...
I can't argue with that.

But Cheney has always been that way and the people of Wyoming were fine with her. Why is it NOW that they noticed all of this about her? She is a standard issue Republican, no different than 99% of the others.

She hasn't changed one iota. They were fine with her before.

For the record, most Democrats would like to see her crash and burn, she is a Republican and she represents everything wrong with the Republican party.
You think ...
So you are basically admitting that
  • she is not a Democrat, nothing like a Democrat and doesn't belong in the Democratic party, and ...
  • the only reason Republicans in her district don't want her is because she will not repeat Trump's lie about the 2020 election
That's it.

That's all there is to it. She will not support Trump's lies and Trump's obstructions of justice and Trump's insurrection and attempted coup.

That's the only reason Republicans don't like her. Her voting record, her economics, her tax policy and all that are perfectly fine. She just will not embrace the lie.

Not embracing Trump's lie is unforgivable.
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Old 06-23-2022, 02:23 PM
 
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So you are basically admitting that
  • she is not a Democrat, nothing like a Democrat and doesn't belong in the Democratic party, and ...
  • the only reason Republicans in her district don't want her is because she will not repeat Trump's lie about the 2020 election
That's it.

That's all there is to it. She will not support Trump's lies and Trump's obstructions of justice and Trump's insurrection and attempted coup.

That's the only reason Republicans don't like her. Her voting record, her economics, her tax policy and all that are perfectly fine. She just will not embrace the lie.

Not embracing Trump's lie is unforgivable.
This IS it. This is literally the whole thing.

One does not disobey Dear Leader, or one pays the consequences. They're all terrified. (Except Liz.)

Of course, none of this points to authoritarianism or anything.
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Old 06-23-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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So you are basically admitting that
  • she is not a Democrat, nothing like a Democrat and doesn't belong in the Democratic party, and ...
  • the only reason Republicans in her district don't want her is because she will not repeat Trump's lie about the 2020 election.

Not embracing Trump's lie is unforgivable.



You actual think the people of Wyoming are booted her because of 1 reason? You are really clueless


Was going against Obama and Hillary (when she ran the party) forgivable? If you as a Democrat impeached Obama and Hillary Clinton (let alone twice) and then beat a dead horse with a hearing attacking the base and the party, you think that is forgivable in the Democrat party?

Your problem is the hypocrisy that you display here everyday that what you accused Trump and the part can be said of the Democrat party and even worse. Apply your posts to your own party before We can take you serious. Ask Tulsi, Manchin and Sinema how they got treated for going against the party talking points and that's not even impeaching the head of the party. If Manchin or Sinema impeaches Biden you think the DNC is going to support their re-election?

You accused Trump of lies and are crickets from the lies of the Democrat party . Do you really need me to list them for you, it's a long list.




Pelosi and the Democrats put party above the country and the constitution and demanding a fair hearing but here you are supporting these people lecturing us when they do a 180. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 06-23-2022, 04:11 PM
 
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This IS it. This is literally the whole thing.

One does not disobey Dear Leader, or one pays the consequences. They're all terrified. (Except Liz.)

Of course, none of this points to authoritarianism or anything.
and you think the Democrats would throw Obama, Bill, Hillary and Biden under the bus to put country first? I guess when Democrats put party above country that is democracy right? You Dems take comedy too far.


Liz is not terrified because like her father, she is set for life in money and a job in the military industrial complex. If you want to light a candle for her go ahead. Poor Child, she made her bed. She is going to be starving when she loses her seat.


In this country you can kill 1 million of the right kind of people and lied about it and nothing happens to you. You get rewarded with government jobs and get richer. Liz worried? Is her father worried? They are the same blood.

Democrats and Liz lecturing the country about Trump and the truth it's like OJ Simpson lecturing the country about spousal abuse and We need to protect women like Amber Heard from monsters. The comedy of all this. Democrats and Liz really think all Americans are stupid.




authoritarianism????? Funny, it wasn't Trump forcing Americans to inject a drug against their will or make threats in their livelihood and liberties. The people that voted for Biden are lecturing us about authoritarianism.
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Old 06-23-2022, 06:09 PM
 
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and you think the Democrats would throw Obama, Bill, Hillary and Biden under the bus to put country first? I guess when Democrats put party above country that is democracy right? You Dems take comedy too far.


Liz is not terrified because like her father, she is set for life in money and a job in the military industrial complex. If you want to light a candle for her go ahead. Poor Child, she made her bed. She is going to be starving when she loses her seat.


In this country you can kill 1 million of the right kind of people and lied about it and nothing happens to you. You get rewarded with government jobs and get richer. Liz worried? Is her father worried? They are the same blood.

Democrats and Liz lecturing the country about Trump and the truth it's like OJ Simpson lecturing the country about spousal abuse and We need to protect women like Amber Heard from monsters. The comedy of all this. Democrats and Liz really think all Americans are stupid.




authoritarianism????? Funny, it wasn't Trump forcing Americans to inject a drug against their will or make threats in their livelihood and liberties. The people that voted for Biden are lecturing us about authoritarianism.
Obama et. al. did not try to make or break people by smear campaigns and I knew not one single person who was absolutely afraid of criticizing him. Not one. (shrug)

As for the drama about livelihoods, there have always been jobs where certain vaccines were required.
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Old 06-23-2022, 06:27 PM
 
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Obama et. al. did not try to make or break people by smear campaigns and I knew not one single person who was absolutely afraid of criticizing him. Not one. (shrug)

As for the drama about livelihoods, there have always been jobs where certain vaccines were required.
You proved my point that B.S. is alive and well in the Democrat Party. Obama put the I.R.S. on his political opponents and his violations on the Fast and the Furious scandal. Sending war weapons that landed on the hands of criminals and enemy of the state the cartels just across the border.

Obama put reporters in jail and went after whistle blowers exposing the many violations in his administration. Thanks for the laugh.

If you think the federal government can force a drug on Americans and then come to complain about Trump and authoritarianism it explains a lot. You prove my point. This is why the people in Wyoming are done with Liz.
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Old 06-23-2022, 06:33 PM
 
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You proved my point that B.S. is alive and well in the Democrat Party. Obama put the I.R.S. on his political opponents and his violations on the Fast and the Furious scandal. Sending war weapons that landed on the hands of criminals and enemy of the state the cartels just across the border.

Obama put reporters in jail and went after whistle blowers exposing the many violations in his administration. Thanks for the laugh.

If you think the federal government can force a drug on Americans and then come to complain about Trump and authoritarianism it explains a lot. You prove my point. This is why the people in Wyoming are done with Liz.
Huh? A president can't be blind, deaf and dumb. Yes, he had to expose specific violations. He did not scream that people were losers and get party members to gang up and basically blacklist them for simply disagreeing with him or hurting his little feelings like Tinyhands did, and does. NO ONE dare speak against dear Leader - no one. For fear. THAT is authoritarianism. That is full control.
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Old 06-23-2022, 07:37 PM
 
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I'm convinced Liz is in a blood feud now. It's the Cheneys and the Trumps, pretty much like the Hatfields and the McCoys.

So if Liz gets Trump stopped cold, she's won. Losing her Wyoming seat in Congress won't matter at all to her then.

A loss never decides any Representative's political fate. Many have lost one election, then came back in a later one.

But for Trump, 2024 is his last shot. If he can get that far. But he would like to have Liz' hide as a trophy if he does.

Liz intends to keep Trump's hide for her trophy. But she also plans to put his scalp in her old man's trophy case too.

That's the difference between picking a fight with the Trump family and the Cheney family. East Coast gangsters vs. Far West gunslingers.

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Old 06-23-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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I'm convinced Liz is in a blood feud now. It's the Cheneys and the Trumps, pretty much like the Hatfields and the McCoys.

So if Liz gets Trump stopped cold, she's won. Losing her Wyoming seat in Congress won't matter at all to her then.

Trump has the base of the party. Liz will lose her seat in a very Republican state. The GOP will take control of Congress in 5 months and Cheney will be out. How is that a win for Cheney?


Even if DeSantis wins the GOP nomination, he will need Trump and the base to win. You think DeSantis will ask Liz to campaign for him while snubbing Trump? LOL


Liz will be like Jeb Bush. A page in the GOP history books. Trump took care of the Bush dynasty in the party. You think Liz will be a problem for him? Mitt Romney is next. My money is that he won't run for re-election in Utah in 2024. He p!ssed off a lot of people in Utah.
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Old 06-23-2022, 07:55 PM
 
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Huh? A president can't be blind, deaf and dumb. Yes, he had to expose specific violations. He did not scream that people were losers and get party members to gang up and basically blacklist them for simply disagreeing with him or hurting his little feelings like Tinyhands did, and does. NO ONE dare speak against dear Leader - no one. For fear. THAT is authoritarianism. That is full control.

Trump didn't put anybody in jail or made them disappeared. So stop with the fascism stuff when the Democrats are a lot worse in the party.


Again, if any Democrat impeaches Obama twice, sides with Republicans in a 1 sided hearing and goes after the base of the Democrat party, they would be done in the party. Why do you have 2 standards?

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