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Old 06-27-2022, 04:54 PM
 
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The Democratic Party is not a cult of personality.

It doesn't worship a traitor to the country, and try to hide his misdeeds.

The Democratic Party doesn't pretend serious problems don't exist. You don't get major pandemics treated like a hoax, for example, or climate change denial.

The Democratic Party doesn't have primary choices held hostage to the whims of one person, and it always produces a party platform based upon the values of the people, so the party is not just "whatever the dear cult leader wants".

... and the Democratic Party doesn't have it's leadership scamming the faithful like the Republican Party does. The way Trump has been robbing Republicans over that fake 'stolen election' scam is downright disgraceful.
You just described the dumocrat party perfectly ! Everything you said, they have done and still do. Trump may have robbed a few Republicans but your party robs the nation every time they're in power.
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Old 06-27-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
The Democratic Party is not a cult of personality.

It doesn't worship a traitor to the country, and try to hide his misdeeds.

The Democratic Party doesn't pretend serious problems don't exist. You don't get major pandemics treated like a hoax, for example, or climate change denial.

The Democratic Party doesn't have primary choices held hostage to the whims of one person, and it always produces a party platform based upon the values of the people, so the party is not just "whatever the dear cult leader wants".

... and the Democratic Party doesn't have it's leadership scamming the faithful like the Republican Party does. The way Trump has been robbing Republicans over that fake 'stolen election' scam is downright disgraceful.



Thanks for the laugh, especially the part in bold.
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Old 06-27-2022, 05:33 PM
 
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Liz Cheney is a true American patriot. Losing her job to bring down a treasonous criminal like Trump is an act of honor and courage. The Republican Party is inflicted by a cancer that is eating it from the inside out; reasonable Republicans such as Cheney need to start a new centrist conservative party. The Republican Party is a lost cause.
This is almost physically painful to agree with. Her politics may suck, but she puts her country first, and I have to respect that.
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Old 06-27-2022, 05:59 PM
 
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She'd be in good company with the other loons on the show.

She would be in good company with the other conservative and Trump hater Nicaraguan Ana Navarro. You know the annoying voice that said she would have aborted her family members on tv based on their special needs. I like listening to Liz a lot better than Ana. She sounds like a bad version of Rosie Perez if you are lost at night in the Bronx.
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Old 06-27-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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This is almost physically painful to agree with. Her politics may suck, but she puts her country first, and I have to respect that.

LMAO! More like the putting the war machine first. It's pathetic watching Democrats defending a Cheney. After the Iraq war I thought it was a done deal, now they love the Cheneys and W Bush. Trump does that to people.
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Old 06-27-2022, 06:15 PM
 
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This is almost physically painful to agree with. Her politics may suck, but she puts her country first, and I have to respect that.

I'm with you on this.





I was a Republican growing up, in a Goldwater family. I supported President Nixon, until support became impossible with the release of the 'smoking gun' tapes. I had to admit that Mr. Nixon engaged in criminal activity. Senator Goldwater went to Nixon on that fateful day and said that Nixon had lost the support of his party. If, Goldwater said, Nixon stayed in office, he would be impeached and then removed by the Senate.



It is literally heart-rending to see what the GOP has become. No honor. No patriotism. Nothing but hatred for all, a desire to become a totalitarian party. If not Mr. Trump, then they will seek another person such as Governor DeSantis.



Fake Christians. Fake patriots. The supporters only serve as ATM's for Trump and his kind. Trump has lost virtually all source of income, save for his supporters. That 250 million he raised for a non-existent POC? All went into his pocket, although the way the laws are we will not know where the money actually went for decades.



The only bright light, if it can be called that: the purity test. Republicans are divided on whom is a true "Trump" conservative, and whom is a RINO. It is quite interesting.



For you in Rio Linda: Both parties used to be quite inclusive. The Republican party had a liberal wing (think, Governor Rockefeller of New York), and a conservative wing (Senator Goldwater). The Democrats were the same: they had the conservative wing (southern Democrats, including George Wallace), and the liberal wing (Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota).



When President Johnson signed into law the Civil Rights Act of 1965, he famously said "We (the Democratic party) have lost the South for two generations".



He meant the conservative wing of the Democratic party, mainly in the south. He was correct. The conservative Democrats could not stomach the Civil Rights Act, so they began to look for another party.



Meanwhile, the Republican party began to be influenced by other forces. The Roe decision of 1973 did not cause that much of a stir when it came out (some protests, sure). Yet, Jerry Falwell determined that the way to build up his own political base was to make abortion an issue. He was very successful. He tied the Roe decision to the pending Equal Rights Amendment, which was being vigorously opposed by "Christians' such as Phyllis Schlafly.



I remember that when the ERA was introduced in 1972, it was thought that it would easily pass. Yet, Falwell and Schlafly opposed it. It never passed (if it had, the Court decision on abortion may have been different).



Conservative Democrats began to leave the party for the Republican side. The exodus was sped up by Ronald Reagan's election in 1980, and then by the defection of Phil Gramm, a Democratic Texas Senator whom had the guts to resign his seat, and run for his seat as a Republican. I still admire him for that.



Anyway, the division between the two major political parties worsened. Conservatives to the Republican Party, Liberals to the Democratic party.



The Democratic party has severe issues, it is true. But, at least, they are not now worshiping a con man from New York that steals money.
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Old 06-27-2022, 06:38 PM
 
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The Democratic party has severe issues, it is true. But, at least, they are not now worshiping a con man from New York that steals money.
Nah, you are ok with Biden in government since 1973 and endless wars. Now you attack Governor DeSantis as a hater without any reason. Republican?

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When President Johnson signed into law the Civil Rights Act of 1965, he famously said "We (the Democratic party) have lost the South for two generations".
That's a lie. The South stayed Democrat on the state and Congress level way after 1965 all the way to 1994 and it had to do more with abortions on demand, gun control, taxes and Northeastern liberalism. It was a slow move but once the Democrats signed the biggest gun grab in history in 1994 and continue abortions on demand with the Casey case in 1992, the South switched. It was 1994 not 1965.

I'm not going over your long post of lies. Former Republican? Good Lord! Goodbye.
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Old 06-27-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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To correct one more time the lies and myth. The South didn't switch parties after 1965. It stayed mostly Democrat on the state and congress level until 1994. That's how you got famous Democrat Governors and Senators like Carter, Bubba Clinton,Ann Richards, Al Gore and the Democrat machine was strong in the South in the 70's, and 80's until 1994.




What the South always distrusted was Northern Eastern Liberalism with Presidential Candidates like Humphrey in 1968 (he won Texas in 1968) McGovern in 1972, Mondale in 1984 and Dukakis in 1988 but the South stayed Democrat Strong on the state and congress level. The South voted for Jimmy Carter 1976 and Bubba Clinton in 1992 as Presidents but on the state level it was Democrat.


It was a slow change. What made the final straw was the 1992 Casey case upholding abortions on demand on all 50 states including the South which wasn't popular and the biggest gun grab in history in 1994 and they switched for good. Taxes and defense also added. To say the South switch in 1965, it's a lie.


Go look who ran the south as governors and the state level and congress in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. It was the Democrat party. Republicans were gaining but Democrats had the majority.
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Old 06-27-2022, 07:10 PM
 
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Liz Cheney is one of the few real republicans left. We have a bunch of nutjobs calling people RINOs when they themselves are the RINOs.

Barry Goldwater predicted this would happen when the religious right infested our party.
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Old 06-27-2022, 07:36 PM
 
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Liz Cheney is one of the few real republicans left. We have a bunch of nutjobs calling people RINOs when they themselves are the RINOs.

Barry Goldwater predicted this would happen when the religious right infested our party.
Barry Goldwater was an idiot. He pushed the black vote for good to the Democrat party for decades because he was too anal to back the Civil Rights Act and repeated the talking points of the racist Southern Democrats. He might had been smart in other things but on this one he was dumb and pushed the black vote to the Democrat party for good and was heartless to the suffering of black people and he ran the dumbest campaign in 1964. Only won 6 states? Do Democrats still quote McGovern, Mondale or Dukais????? NO, because they are big time losers and idiots, so why you do it for Goldwater? Is it an Arizona thing?


What makes Liz a "real republican"? She likes endless wars and endless nation building and drone the hell out of poor people and takes orders from daddy Darth Vader. You can take her to your state and make her a Senator or Governor. She can join the other RINO blonde Cindy McCain that campaigned for Biden and works in his administration.


You can't be a true Republican and vote for Hillary or Biden. That's a joke.
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