Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
In the Los Angeles mayor election Caruso was well ahead. He is registered as a Democrat as a Republican stands no chance in Calif. but he was a Republican although a very moderate one.
A week after the election now Democrat Bass is ahead.
No politics allowed in the LA forum that's why here.
What, Republicans don’t know how to mail an envelope?
That doesn't prove anything. Who counted your vote and did your vote get added to the tally? What was the exact tally when your ballot was counted?
In my system of getting in line at a precinct and dropping ballots on camera one at a time, then counting every ballot one at a time as each ballot is shown to the camera when the poll worker adds +1, proving no counting error or extra counts, because ONLY the ballots in the box are counted, and YOU dropped your ballot into the box. You can watch the precinct video playback and SEE yourself drop your ballot, then watch as every ballot is taken out of the box one by one and counted on camera. One of those ballots is YOURS and you have PROOF it was counted.
No OTHER system is more accurate or can provided visual proof your ballot counted in your precinct.
The thing is no precinct I know of does it this way because they rely on ballot machines to count. Then you go online and see a confirmation. That proves nothing. We need CAMERAS recording all counting of ballots BY HAND- showing each ballot AS IT'S TALLIED on an adding machine that everyone can watch/record. The camera also records each person in line one by one at the ballot box, providing a 'drop-count' which certainly should not be more than the registered voters at that precinct.
Amazing the hypocrisy of the left. Idolize a drug addicted, woman abusing, Fentanyl laced felon. But, vilify an unarmed veteran woman shot unarmed by a male "cop" who was in zero danger. Trespassing is not a crime that justifies shoot on sight deadly force. And, by your own standards, if he had obeyed the cops like you said Ashli should have, he would be alive today.
If the cop wasn't doing the bidding of the left, there would have been non stop outrage until he was put in prison for life. I am sickened by the depths the left has fallen to, but sure glad this depth has been revealed. At least we understand now how far democrats will go and how viciously they will protect each other.
It has nothing to do with left vs right, it's more like the old saying "If you wanna dance you have to pay the band". She knew what she was doing, she's not some naïve innocent who thought it was ok to do what she did and she paid the price.
A few corrections, Tim, as someone who lives in California. My answers are in bold.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
No, elections are legit when an engaged, informed citizenry votes. Correct. Which is what happened. Voting should take some engagement and effort from citizens. I'm unaware of voting laws that state voting should take "some effort from citizens," in particular the exact effort you, personally, believe it "should" take. Follow these steps.
First California registers people to vote EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO REGISTER. No, you can click the box asking not to be registered. It is a convenience to be able to be automatically be sent to be registered to vote...see immediately below.
People in CA are registered when they get a state drivers license or state ID. Bear in mind that ANYONE in CA can get a drivers license or state ID, even an ILLEGAL alien. (before you ask, yes, illegal aliens have been illegally registered to vote ans yes, some have voted illegally) Of course people were going to ask, and in fact, no, illegal aliens are NOT automatically registered to vote. If you do not click the box asking NOT to be registered, your information is sent to the Secretary of State's office, where it is either VERIFIED that you meet ALL CRITERIA to be registered to vote, or you are NOT registered. "Registration to vote" is NOT automatic; your info being sent along to be verified and if you qualify, being regsitered, is indeed automatic, unless you CHOOSE for it not to be, which you can do right then and there receiving your license.
Step two, California passes a state law to allow anyone to collect ballots from voters. In the past this was illegal due to the potential for fraud and improper influence. And every ballot has the signature compared to the original signature given when registering to vote. If it doesn't match, knock-knock, it's the police!
Step three, California passes a state law to mail ballots to EVERYONE on the state registration, even though they know the state registrar is hopelessly corrupted. LA County ALONE was forced to purge, 1,500,000 voters off the rolls (as required by law) in 2019. What would happened in 2020 to those 1.5 MILLION ballots that would have gone to ineligible voters? They would be stopped when discovered that they are ineligible, just like any other vote placed anywhere - including at the voting booth.
Again, there should be some effort involved in voting. Those who care will register, go vote or request an absentee ballot. There should not be ballots floating around.
Again, it is not a law that "there should be 'some effort' involved in voting, though filling out the form and mailing it is also effort. Your specific desire for a specific type of effort, per your personal desires, is not law.
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
It will be interesting to watch AZ in 2022 and 2024 given ballot harvesting is not allowed.
So you're saying it WAS easy to cheat...and Republicans won, but now it WON'T be easy to cheat. Is that it? Because I thought you were saying it was easy to cheat beforehand. Which, given the above, would seem to say: Republicans cheated.
Things are getting a little confusing with all this pretzel-twisting logic to make Republicans seem like honest, innocent victims (giggle) and Democrats seem like sooooper-evil villains in some comic book or something.
"If I win, it's because I deserved it, but if you win, you cheated" is not an adult thought process. I wish our nation would grow up already and really hear what they're saying. We have regressed significantly and it's not just embarrassing, but it has, in recent years, become dangerous. And this daydream that one's own party is full of honesty and an inability "to cheat" but the other party is some sort of group of masterminds ripping everyone off is even more innocent (to put it diplomatically). It's one or the other, people. Either it's easy to cheat and everyone is doing it (because come on...get real), or elections really are overall fair.
*
And would the last legal American citizen to leave California, please bring the flag.
No, we will be keeping it, as you are not allowed to tell Americans they are not Americans; sorry. We are American, and we will keep our flag and be proud. Remember, we are not the ones who attempted to zip tie the vice president into not being allowed to accomplish a constitutional process, so if there is anyone NOT in a position to call others "unamerican," it is the GOP. The virtue signaling doesn't work; you played that hand badly, I'm afraid. As my friend used to say: goodbye; don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
It's funny that Republicans are so upset about mail-in ballots when traditionally it has worked in Republican favor across the country. Political analysts and consultants of both parties have known this for decades.
That was when mail-in ballots were used legitimately by people who couldn't make it to the polls not by people who just didn't want to bother with it (or didn't vote so they let someone else send in their ballot).
Amazing the hypocrisy of the left. Idolize a drug addicted, woman abusing, Fentanyl laced felon. But, vilify an unarmed veteran woman shot unarmed by a male "cop" who was in zero danger. Trespassing is not a crime that justifies shoot on sight deadly force. And, by your own standards, if he had obeyed the cops like you said Ashli should have, he would be alive today.
If the cop wasn't doing the bidding of the left, there would have been non stop outrage until he was put in prison for life. I am sickened by the depths the left has fallen to, but sure glad this depth has been revealed. At least we understand now how far democrats will go and how viciously they will protect each other.
130 cops were beat up on that day but this one was in "zero danger"?
That was when mail-in ballots were used legitimately by people who couldn't make it to the polls not by people who just didn't want to bother with it (or didn't vote so they let someone else send in their ballot).
So during COVID restrictions, there isn't a risk of cheating? But now, suddenly, just a year and a half later...there is?
More pretzel twisting. I think we're going to need a flow chart of "what is and isn't cheating, and when, per conservatives." Sort of like...Did you receive a mail-in ballot? Yes..no If yes, are you a conservative? If yes...NO FRAUD. If no...FRAUD. Something simple like that for us all to follow. Thanks!
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Remember, we are not the ones who attempted to zip tie the vice president into not being allowed to accomplish a constitutional process, so if there is anyone NOT in a position to call others "unamerican," it is the GOP. The virtue signaling doesn't work; you played that hand badly, I'm afraid. As my friend used to say: goodbye; don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. 
