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Old 07-04-2022, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Ugh. We've all known Newsome was being prepped for this since he entered politics, since day 1. I HATE POLITICAL DYNASTIES and everyone should, it's not even funny! It would be bad, he's not exactly helping CA with ANY of his policies and overreaching laws.
It’s like Trudeau and Newsome were hand picket by the Soros Gang. They are almost twins.
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Old 07-04-2022, 09:20 PM
 
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Newsome is an arrogant jackazz.
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Old 07-05-2022, 02:35 PM
 
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Newsom wins the traditional blue states without lifting a finger (CA, WA, OR, CO, NM, IL, NY, VT, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, CD = 196)

with just a little work NV, AZ, MN, WI, MI = 248

Plenty of ways for Newsom to get to 271 from there.

Don't count him out, Newsom would be very competitive against any R.
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Old 07-05-2022, 05:54 PM
 
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Could be what is shaping up for 2024. Newsome is running ads in Florida.

Gavin Newsom goes on the air against Ron DeSantis as political rivalry grows

Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis aren't just avatars for the different futures of their parties, but also for the separate realities blue and red Americans are living in -- two people of opposing viewpoints looking at the exact same set of facts and coming to vastly different conclusions.They're both governors, rising stars and speculated soon-to-be presidential candidates, building out micro-ideological models in their sunny capitals.

In ever-blue California, Newsom, the son of a state appellate judge, has rebooted from his start as a flashy progressive hero around quieter legislative pushes. Meanwhile, in reddening Florida, there's DeSantis, the son of a Nielsen box salesman, who in public cleaves less to his two Ivy League degrees than to the anti-elitist, reactionary politics that have consumed the GOP.

Newsom now is going on the air against DeSantis in Florida -- with what he says is not the first ad of the 2024, or even the 2028, presidential race -- with the goal of trying to get Democrats to reclaim a sense of collective identity that could enable them to beat Trumpism in the long term.
Easy answer. DeSantis gets my vote on any day. DeSantis is from Dunedin, and is well respected in Florida for his accomplishments, career and he is a great family man.
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Old 07-05-2022, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Newsom wins the traditional blue states without lifting a finger (CA, WA, OR, CO, NM, IL, NY, VT, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, CD = 196)

with just a little work NV, AZ, MN, WI, MI = 248

Plenty of ways for Newsom to get to 271 from there.

Don't count him out, Newsom would be very competitive against any R.
With a little work DeSantis could win NV, AZ, MN, WI, and MI just as well.
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Old 07-05-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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Ugh. We've all known Newsome was being prepped for this since he entered politics, since day 1. I HATE POLITICAL DYNASTIES and everyone should, it's not even funny! It would be bad, he's not exactly helping CA with ANY of his policies and overreaching laws.
Why do you consider it a dynasty ?

Because Nancy’s husband’s brother used to be married to Newsom’s father’s sister ?

They’ve been divorced for 45 years.
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Old 07-05-2022, 07:01 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Those of you who continue to spell Newom with a trailing "e", that is incorrectly, Newsome, are just reinforcing how handsome he is, so drop the "e".

Like him or not, the name is NEWSOM.
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Old 07-06-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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Newsom wins the traditional blue states without lifting a finger (CA, WA, OR, CO, NM, IL, NY, VT, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, CD = 196)

with just a little work NV, AZ, MN, WI, MI = 248

Plenty of ways for Newsom to get to 271 from there.

Don't count him out, Newsom would be very competitive against any R.

Probably why there are so many anti Newsom comments on CD. Trump voters on here are nervous about him.

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Old 07-06-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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One would like to think that running two candidates largely considered by the other party to be nutjobs would usher in some kind of change in how we develop and push candidates, but we all know it won't.
Who considers DeSantis a nut job?
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Old 07-06-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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If the Dems think that DeSantis is a "nutjob", then that just shows how big of a nutjob the DEMS are!

I don't doubt that some, perhaps 30%, of the Dems think that DeSantis is a nutjob, but I have a hard time believing that half or more of the Dems actually think that. If they do, then they're nuttier than I give them credit for.

You see, the problem for the Dems is that they can't come right out and denounce the leftist Crazies in their own party because if they did, the Crazies would split off and vote third-party Socialist which would spell the doom for the Dems.

So, the majority of the Dems are stuck between a rock and a hard spot. They can't compromise with the R's on any reasonable legislation or that would pi$$ off the Crazies on the left of their party. So, it appears that the Dems are going to go down in flames while sticking to their "all or nothing" leftist policies.

I really think that the best solution for the moderate Dems is to switch to the R party and vote for the R candidate whose views they find most appealing/tolerable. If they stick with the leftists Crazies, they'll end up with the right wing of the R party in control. Perhaps they should remember the old saying, "A half-loaf is better than no loaf at all."
I’m not sure it would spell doom for the dems to shed their progressive base. I think it would help them greatly.
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