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Old 07-16-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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Indeed. Looks like MAGA is going to die with the January 6th hearings. Trump is the worst ever and makes hillary and Nixon look like the beacon of honesty.

He should go to jail and be stripped of citizenship. He’s as vile as Jefferson Davis. King Traitor.
Anyone w/more than two brain cells could see the election was stolen; January 6th was a setup staged by high level Democrats, including Pelosi, some members of the FBI, some members of Capitol Hill police, with the help of BLM/Antifa agitators; there are still hundreds of political prisoners in what is said to be the worst jail in the U.S. run by a very sadistically cruel warden and prison staff; and the January 6th committee is a partisan charade, done partially as a Democrat advertising tool, and partially to discredit Trump and his most ardent supporters.

It's has all been done to distract from the fact Democrats stole the 2020 presidential election, and they are doing everything they can to find a way to prevent Trump from running in 2024. Slandering him to find a way to charge him and possibly 'Lock him up' is their feeble attempt of doing so.

Sad that so many allow themselves to either be brainwashed by the left-wing media and lying Democrats (& even some Republicans). They wanted the man out who challenged the establishment, and they want to ensure he never gets to become president again. Keep in mind, many of these same people went to Trump begging for campaign donations in the past before he ran for president the first time.

All of us should be disgusted by both political parties that have ruled over us for generations. The Democrats happen to be the worst of the two, by far. We need a viable third party, I just hope it's not too far into the future that we have one.

 
Old 07-16-2022, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Good luck with all the success you're expecting to happen in the fall elections Dems. In 2010, the Democrats lost 63 House seats when Obama had a 44% approval rating. Biden's approval rating is in the 30's and falling every day.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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In your opinion, is LeBron James a "real Ohioan?"
I'd like to hear Herschel Walker's opinion on this.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Good luck with all the success you're expecting to happen in the fall elections Dems. In 2010, the Democrats lost 63 House seats when Obama had a 44% approval rating. Biden's approval rating is in the 30's and falling every day.
While I certainly expect the GOP to pick up a decent amount of seats, the chances of 63 or anything that close to that is extremely slim. Republicans hold more seats now than they did heading into the 2010 election. There also aren't nearly as many sing seats or GOP leaning seats that the Democrats hold now compared to what the Democrats held in 2010, following their pickups in 2006 and 2008.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 09:32 PM
 
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Brown was last up for re-election in 2018, which was in general a very favorable cycle for Democrats being the midterm of a Republican president. It's unlikely that he will be so fortunate in 2024 when Trump or another populist conservative Republican is on the top of the ballot, and characterizing a vote for any Democrat as supporting a "woke" or "radical" agenda. Increased polarization makes it very difficult to win in states that lean towards the other party, which objectively is true of Ohio.

This is true, although Republicans actually gained seats in the Senate and Brown, like Manchin and Tester, may have survived in part, because he had a weak opponent that year. And yes, polarization will almost certainly be their downfall in 2024. This is not 1984 or even 2004 anymore, when Senators and Governors could win landslides in states carried by the opposing party at the presidential level.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good luck with all the success you're expecting to happen in the fall elections Dems. In 2010, the Democrats lost 63 House seats when Obama had a 44% approval rating. Biden's approval rating is in the 30's and falling every day.
You are assuming that all these races will be tied to the president, congress had a role the last 2 years and their voting records will come into play. I expect the democrats to lose seats but it's not all about the president. The congressional approval rating is around 20%.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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This is true, although Republicans actually gained seats in the Senate and Brown, like Manchin and Tester, may have survived in part, because he had a weak opponent that year. And yes, polarization will almost certainly be their downfall in 2024. This is not 1984 or even 2004 anymore, when Senators and Governors could win landslides in states carried by the opposing party at the presidential level.
I think Brown's likely defeat in 2024 will be the nail in the coffin of Ohio's status as a swing state. Depending on the trajectory of Texas and Florida (which are pretty red for now but have a lower share of the typical #MAGA demographic), Ohio may become the largest solid red state in the country by the 2030s.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 05:31 PM
 
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I think Brown's likely defeat in 2024 will be the nail in the coffin of Ohio's status as a swing state. Depending on the trajectory of Texas and Florida (which are pretty red for now but have a lower share of the typical #MAGA demographic), Ohio may become the largest solid red state in the country by the 2030s.

I think you are correct. Texas will probably become a swing state by the end of this decade, while Ohio, which is already Likely R, will move definitively into the Safe R column.
 
Old 07-27-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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I think Brown's likely defeat in 2024 will be the nail in the coffin of Ohio's status as a swing state. Depending on the trajectory of Texas and Florida (which are pretty red for now but have a lower share of the typical #MAGA demographic), Ohio may become the largest solid red state in the country by the 2030s.
I think Texas is trending towards swing status but Florida is growing redder. Only one Florida Dem has won statewide since 2012. And Florida is very MAGA as Trump has been hugely successful turning out his base fro both presidential elections and even the 2018 midterm- there is no Senator Rick Scott without Trump. Ohio is basically a red state with one successful D politician grandfathered in. Its kind of like Vermont being a blue state but picking an R governor. Very specific pol for the state.

FWIW- I think Ryan will basically gain another 3 points or so to get to the upper 40s but Vance will benefit from all the Rs who don't like him still voting R when they enter the voting booth. It is the same trend as the 2016 & 2020 Presidential races- the D #s where pretty close but a lot of folks who did not like (or would not openly admit to liking) Trump voted for him in the end. The Dem needs to be at atleast 48 to have a shot. 43 is too low to withstand the surge of late committing Rs.
 
Old 07-27-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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I think Texas is trending towards swing status but Florida is growing redder. Only one Florida Dem has won statewide since 2012. And Florida is very MAGA as Trump has been hugely successful turning out his base fro both presidential elections and even the 2018 midterm- there is no Senator Rick Scott without Trump. Ohio is basically a red state with one successful D politician grandfathered in. Its kind of like Vermont being a blue state but picking an R governor. Very specific pol for the state.
Yes, Texas is likely turning purple, but it's a slow process. Republicans are in a strong position in Florida, but what makes it unpredictable is the constant churn of population, with the electorate gaining new groups of retirees and immigrants who don't necessarily take after those who came to the state earlier. Trump being a Florida resident in 2020 probably gave him a small boost as well. Ohio has a much more stable population and resembles several others in the Midwest that have also trended right, so I think its trajectory is more certain.

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FWIW- I think Ryan will basically gain another 3 points or so to get to the upper 40s but Vance will benefit from all the Rs who don't like him still voting R when they enter the voting booth. It is the same trend as the 2016 & 2020 Presidential races- the D #s where pretty close but a lot of folks who did not like (or would not openly admit to liking) Trump voted for him in the end. The Dem needs to be at atleast 48 to have a shot. 43 is too low to withstand the surge of late committing Rs.
I agree with this. Another factor in the current polling is likely that the Republican primary was extremely divided. Some of the Mandel, Gibbons, etc. voters haven't committed to Vance at this point, but on Election Day they'll vote for him over the Democrat.
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