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Old 11-22-2022, 01:40 PM
 
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Go ahead and tell me about Lawrence County since your the Wikipedia expert. Now because you are the expert, tell me why these people are the way they are? What were the causes of a once prosperous county losing so much. We are waiting.......

So you are saying government is should take the blame for their current situation? What about personal responsibility and accountability?



I can only guess their situation is a victim of capitalism, corporate farms taking over causing the independent family farmer to go out of business. They are a victim of greed, it's the American way, nothing you or I can do about it.
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Old 01-21-2023, 05:29 PM
 
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Cairo was already dying for 100 years.

Cairo was tied to river traffic and the trans shipment of goods, which required a lot of manual labor. Those goods were not generally destined for Cairo, and they did not generally originate in Cairo, they were always coming from and going to someplace else. After the railroads barge traffic declined even as the size and length of barges increased. Ferry traffic declined and stopped too. Cairo's importance as a transportation hub slipped away and couldn't compete in any way for manufacturing. The town sits out there surrounded on three sides by river traffic that doesn't need to stop.

Even today there appears to be no major industry which can find a good reason to locate near Cairo.

Chicago had a similar start, as a terminus of the I & M canal. It was a damp, actually swampy location at the mouth of a river into Lake Michigan.

Today the I & M is dead and buried, if Chicago had only that, it would be a ghost town today. But it became a rail hub and attracted manufacturing, then it became an air transport hub, then a hub for the interstate highway system. Chicago became a major consumer of goods as well as a producer of goods. Geography favored Chicago.

Cairo was never able to grow past it's original purpose and none of the other small towns around there could either. It is not a good location for a rail hub and does not have any ability to attract manufacturing, even with the interstate highway system. Cairo does not have anything more to recommend it than Golconda, Metropolis or Shawneetown and they are all rather small. They are all small for a reason: industry can see no purpose in locating there and no government can force private enterprise to locate there. Even with the tax incentives the state offers new industry, those locations don't get a bite. The world just passes it by.

This has nothing top do with politics. Illinois was a bellwether state for a long, long time and neither Republican nor Democratic administrations could reverse the long slow decline of these marginally situated communities.
Liberal BS and you know it.

Cairo was a prosperous, well to do town into the 1960s. Then Jessie Jackson began "rent a riot" there and after MANY riots, in which the downtown was destroyed, anyone with a dime in their pocket moved to Cape Girardeau or Paducah.

Never able to "grow beyond its purpose"? What a bunch of BS. There is a ton of money in Paducah and Cape that all came from people who used to be in Cairo (until dem policy destroyed the town).

A new port is being built in Cairo on the Ohio which will bring about 1,000 jobs to the area. However, very few of the remaining residents will qualify for those jobs, as they have no work ethic or education.

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS. That is why Iowa, Indiana, and Kentucky have had a massive influx of businesses that used to be in Illinois. You are 100% wrong if you believe otherwise and know nothing about all the industry that has REMAINED IN THE US, BUT JUST LEFT ILLINOIS. The businesses moved to states with more favorable tax policy, a better work force, and a state which is not controlled by the trial lawyers association, not to mention the outrageous taxes!

You have obviously never lived in Illinois (I have) and have seen the corrosive, destructive action of liberal politics on the state.
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Old 01-21-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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I wonder if Metropolis, Illinois still has the Superman billboard? That’s about all they had that was noteworthy.
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Old 01-21-2023, 06:36 PM
 
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Cairo was already dying for 100 years.

Cairo was tied to river traffic and the trans shipment of goods, which required a lot of manual labor. Those goods were not generally destined for Cairo, and they did not generally originate in Cairo, they were always coming from and going to someplace else. After the railroads barge traffic declined even as the size and length of barges increased. Ferry traffic declined and stopped too. Cairo's importance as a transportation hub slipped away and couldn't compete in any way for manufacturing. The town sits out there surrounded on three sides by river traffic that doesn't need to stop.

Even today there appears to be no major industry which can find a good reason to locate near Cairo.

Chicago had a similar start, as a terminus of the I & M canal. It was a damp, actually swampy location at the mouth of a river into Lake Michigan.

Today the I & M is dead and buried, if Chicago had only that, it would be a ghost town today. But it became a rail hub and attracted manufacturing, then it became an air transport hub, then a hub for the interstate highway system. Chicago became a major consumer of goods as well as a producer of goods. Geography favored Chicago.

Cairo was never able to grow past it's original purpose and none of the other small towns around there could either. It is not a good location for a rail hub and does not have any ability to attract manufacturing, even with the interstate highway system. Cairo does not have anything more to recommend it than Golconda, Metropolis or Shawneetown and they are all rather small. They are all small for a reason: industry can see no purpose in locating there and no government can force private enterprise to locate there. Even with the tax incentives the state offers new industry, those locations don't get a bite. The world just passes it by.

This has nothing top do with politics. Illinois was a bellwether state for a long, long time and neither Republican nor Democratic administrations could reverse the long slow decline of these marginally situated communities.
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Liberal BS and you know it.

Cairo was a prosperous, well to do town into the 1960s. Then Jessie Jackson began "rent a riot" there and after MANY riots, in which the downtown was destroyed, anyone with a dime in their pocket moved to Cape Girardeau or Paducah.

Never able to "grow beyond its purpose"? What a bunch of BS. There is a ton of money in Paducah and Cape that all came from people who used to be in Cairo (until dem policy destroyed the town).

A new port is being built in Cairo on the Ohio which will bring about 1,000 jobs to the area. However, very few of the remaining residents will qualify for those jobs, as they have no work ethic or education.

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS. That is why Iowa, Indiana, and Kentucky have had a massive influx of businesses that used to be in Illinois. You are 100% wrong if you believe otherwise and know nothing about all the industry that has REMAINED IN THE US, BUT JUST LEFT ILLINOIS. The businesses moved to states with more favorable tax policy, a better work force, and a state which is not controlled by the trial lawyers association, not to mention the outrageous taxes!

You have obviously never lived in Illinois (I have) and have seen the corrosive, destructive action of liberal politics on the state.
Racism is what killed Cairo, but Jesse Jackson had little to do with it. I grew up not too far from Cairo, and it has long been a bastion of racism - to the point that in the early 2000s when I made deliveries there while training a new driver who happened to be black I was told to make sure that he stayed in the truck by local law enforcement. Racism has been entrenched there since the early 1900s, and I've never come across any indication that Jesse Jackson even visited there. If you have any links to back up that claim, I'm all for putting some blame on Jackson, but I didn't find anything with a quick google search.

If you haven't been to Cairo, it's a fairly miserable place. Between the low elevation, the rivers, and the humidity bowl that hangs over the area in the summertime, it takes about 2 minutes to go from clean and well-dressed to drenched in sweat.
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Old 01-24-2023, 12:57 AM
 
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Cairo hit it's peak population in 1920. It was dying before Jesse Jackson was even born.
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Old 01-24-2023, 09:36 AM
 
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Illinois is a dumpster fire and MOST OF THE STATE is held "hostage" by insane policy dictated from Chicago.

Most of Illinois outside of Chicago should join the adjacent conservative states and ditch Chicago.

If you want to see how democrat policy destroys the rest of the state, look at Cairo, Illinois. Cairo was a prosperous, nice town in the 60s and has been transformed to something that looks like a post-apocalyptic landscape by liberal policy and Jessie Jackson. Witness Caterpillar moving most of their operations outside of Peoria to other states and other nations.
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Cairo was already dying for 100 years.

Cairo was tied to river traffic and the trans shipment of goods, which required a lot of manual labor. Those goods were not generally destined for Cairo, and they did not generally originate in Cairo, they were always coming from and going to someplace else. After the railroads barge traffic declined even as the size and length of barges increased. Ferry traffic declined and stopped too. Cairo's importance as a transportation hub slipped away and couldn't compete in any way for manufacturing. The town sits out there surrounded on three sides by river traffic that doesn't need to stop.

Even today there appears to be no major industry which can find a good reason to locate near Cairo.

Chicago had a similar start, as a terminus of the I & M canal. It was a damp, actually swampy location at the mouth of a river into Lake Michigan.

Today the I & M is dead and buried, if Chicago had only that, it would be a ghost town today. But it became a rail hub and attracted manufacturing, then it became an air transport hub, then a hub for the interstate highway system. Chicago became a major consumer of goods as well as a producer of goods. Geography favored Chicago.

Cairo was never able to grow past it's original purpose and none of the other small towns around there could either. It is not a good location for a rail hub and does not have any ability to attract manufacturing, even with the interstate highway system. Cairo does not have anything more to recommend it than Golconda, Metropolis or Shawneetown and they are all rather small. They are all small for a reason: industry can see no purpose in locating there and no government can force private enterprise to locate there. Even with the tax incentives the state offers new industry, those locations don't get a bite. The world just passes it by.

This has nothing top do with politics. Illinois was a bellwether state for a long, long time and neither Republican nor Democratic administrations could reverse the long slow decline of these marginally situated communities.
Liberal BS and you know it.

Cairo was a prosperous, well to do town into the 1960s. Then Jessie Jackson began "rent a riot" there and after MANY riots, in which the downtown was destroyed, anyone with a dime in their pocket moved to Cape Girardeau or Paducah.

Never able to "grow beyond its purpose"? What a bunch of BS. There is a ton of money in Paducah and Cape that all came from people who used to be in Cairo (until dem policy destroyed the town).

A new port is being built in Cairo on the Ohio which will bring about 1,000 jobs to the area. However, very few of the remaining residents will qualify for those jobs, as they have no work ethic or education.

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS. That is why Iowa, Indiana, and Kentucky have had a massive influx of businesses that used to be in Illinois. You are 100% wrong if you believe otherwise and know nothing about all the industry that has REMAINED IN THE US, BUT JUST LEFT ILLINOIS. The businesses moved to states with more favorable tax policy, a better work force, and a state which is not controlled by the trial lawyers association, not to mention the outrageous taxes!

You have obviously never lived in Illinois (I have) and have seen the corrosive, destructive action of liberal politics on the state.
LOL you seem to have anger issues.

I am a lifelong resident of Illinois, except for a brief period overseas after which I returned directly to Illinois. Today I live in a deep red county in north central Illinois, but I know southern Illinois well enough to stand by all of my remarks on the subject.

Your hate filled rants are unbecoming.
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