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Old 05-31-2008, 02:49 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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ALL of the candidates agreed to abide by the DNC rules. Clinton stated on the radio that the votes should not count. It is shameful that the rules that were agreed to should be changed because of ONE candidate deciding that this is the only way to win the nomination. If any of the candidates had really wanted every vote to count it should have been debated at the beginning before a single vote was cast in Fl and Mi. Both voters and candidates were made aware that the votes would not count, why was nothing said before the voting and it has become a issue now?
If anyone disagrees with a sanction they MUST bring their objections to the table before a vote and not after a vote if things don't go their way.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They CAN'T take the risk of alienating MI & FL voters for the general. These two states are critical for the dems. I don't think they will win FL, but MI right now is a swing state - could go either way.

Isn't it ironic that the DEMOCRAT party - the party of one vote, count every vote - is on the verge of disenfranchising MILLIONS of primary voters?

The dems have to make the determination if they do this, will the voters pay them back in Nov.

Definitely a pickle, no doubt.
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Bridgetown, Ohio
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Isn't it ironic that the DEMOCRAT party - the party of one vote, count every vote - is on the verge of disenfranchising MILLIONS of primary voters?
It is kind of ironc, the Dems setting standards and trying to live by them and not wanting to count illegal votes -- I am sure they will be back to their usual principles by November.

But one thing for sure, it puts a different slant on the 2000 presidential election -- is Hillary trying to "steal" this election?

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Old 05-31-2008, 03:36 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Maybe they should realise that you cannot make a fair decision on a unfair vote. They should stop worrying about Obama and Clinton and divide the votes 50/50 so that Fl & Mi get delegates at the convention. That way Fl and Mi will have a voice at th3e convention. We all know that Hillary wouldn't give a damn about Fl or Mi if she wasn't losing. Move on now and do the right thing so that the voters in Fl & Mi have a say.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:13 PM
 
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How can she steal the election?

If she gets the most votes and the delegates he won it.

How quickly the loons forget that in 2000 they fought that the vote count was the important thing, now its not?

Screw Florida and you are done!

The people of Florida and Michigan are just as good as you and I and there vote should count. If they count them both.

WIN goes to Hillary

Is Obama trying to "steal" the election by not counting the peoples vote?
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:21 PM
 
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How can she steal the election?

If she gets the most votes and the delegates he won it.

How quickly the loons forget that in 2000 they fought that the vote count was the important thing, now its not?

Screw Florida and you are done!

The people of Florida and Michigan are just as good as you and I and there vote should count. If they count them both.

WIN goes to Hillary

Is Obama trying to "steal" the election by not counting the peoples vote?
Yes he is and it will be the greatest theft in history if he pulls it off. Do you recommend that the FBI move forward with federal prosecution if he pulls the embezzlement of votes off?
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Did you hear her people screaming after they voted not to seat 100% of Florida's delegates?

Denver! Denver! Denver! Denver! Denver!

What a bunch of moronic twits. That totally exposes their ultimate game plan which is cause an uproar at the convention. Of course this ploy was approved by Hillary herself, its what she wants.

And then the committee member(Hillary supporter) from Florida told them to basically shut up and get a clue of how compromise in politics works, which I thought was hella funny.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:55 PM
 
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Did you hear her people screaming after they voted not to seat 100% of Florida's delegates?

Denver! Denver! Denver! Denver! Denver!

What a bunch of moronic twits. That totally exposes their ultimate game plan which is cause an uproar at the convention. Of course this ploy was approved by Hillary herself, its what she wants.

And then the committee member(Hillary supporter) from Florida told them to basically shut up and get a clue of how compromise in politics works, which I thought was hella funny.

How about the guy speaking now against the Michigan compromise? No tie, open shirt and the use of As_ I would be in trouble probably for writing the whole word on here and he says it on national tv wow and it is in the children's hour time slot. So Hillary reserves her right to take it to the credentials committee. Her audience representatives are rude and oh well who do you think they learned it from.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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I mean they learned it from Hillary and I was not saying they learned if from her supporters in here.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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How about the guy speaking now against the Michigan compromise? No tie, open shirt and the use of As_ I would be in trouble probably for writing the whole word on here and he says it on national tv wow and it is in the children's hour time slot.
Ah yes, Harold Ickes, Clintonista number 1.

And she wants to reserve her right to take this to the credentials commitee in Denver-well there you have it.
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