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So when the real votes are cast, I don't think Trump and his MAGA wearing supporters are going to be celebrating at all.
Is that your wishful thinking. You know Joe is in trouble when all you can talk about is how Trump is the devil. It's going to be a sad night in N.Y.C. on election night.
Those polls are meaningless. That's popular vote. It shows how much Biden has fallen since 2020. This time in 2020, Joe was 7+ average in all polls average and he only won 25 states and 4 of those by less than 1% and 3 of those states decided the E.C. which is how you win. Now he is -2.
The battleground states polls are the important ones. Joe is losing in ALL of them. Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada.
Top Battle Ground States: Trump 47.5%. Biden 43.4%
Also, in 2024: More than 48,600 18 year olds are registered to vote in Ohio, a 35% increase from late August in 2023. This is likely repeated in 49 more states. This demographic of under 25, are not being polled at all. https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/...-vote-in-ohio/
And many Republicans are pretending like Trump is a "normal GOP candidate." He's the opposite, with baggage upon baggage upon baggage, and an absolute disaster waiting to happen.
So when the real votes are cast, I don't think Trump and his MAGA wearing supporters are going to be celebrating at all.
538 and 2022...
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Let’s give a big round of applause to the pollsters. Measuring public opinion is, in many ways, harder than ever — and yet, the polling industry just had one of its most successful election cycles in U.S. history. Despite a loud chorus of naysayers claiming that the polls were either underestimating Democratic support or biased yet again against Republicans, the polls were more accurate in 2022 than in any cycle since at least 1998, with almost no bias toward either party.
Of course, some pollsters were more accurate than others. And today, we’ve updated the FiveThirtyEight pollster ratings to account for each pollster’s performance in the 2022 cycle. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ling-accuracy/
And about the red wave...
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The problem for using the red wave that wasn’t as a template for 2024 is that Democrats outperformed narratives and expectations more than polls in 2022. There was very little in the available polling on election night 2022 that suggested Republicans were on the verge of a 2010-style midterm romp. In fact, the final generic ballot polling average on the much-maligned RealClearPolitics was that Republicans would win the national House vote by 2.5 points. They ended up winning it by 2.8. https://news.yahoo.com/three-comfort...104500704.html
Is that your wishful thinking. You know Joe is in trouble when all you can talk about is how Trump is the devil. It's going to be a sad night in N.Y.C. on election night.
Trump is the devil? No, he's just a joke who is absolutely inept, and uses people for his own wealth and his own gains.
For years, we've all seen him, heard him and watched him in action. He's a sad failure.
If you still support him today, I'd do some serious soul searching as to what you see redeeming in him, and why you think that way, exactly.
Trump is leading the polls, but there's plenty of time for Biden to catch up
If the 2024 general election were held tomorrow, President Joe Biden would probably lose to former President Donald Trump. That's because, by 538's averaging, Biden trails in every major swing state — not to mention in national polls, too.
...Some of the president's detractors have pointed out that polls in the last two presidential elections have underestimated support for Trump. They suggest polls are likely to do the same again this year. But polls have not traditionally overestimated the same party reliably over time. In 1976, for example, polls underestimated Carter's margin of victory over President Gerald Ford. But in 1980 they overestimated Carter by 3.2 points — an error rivaling that of the 2016 election. And after slightly underestimating Obama in 2012, polls famously overestimated Clinton in 2016. Trump again beat expectations in 2020 by an even bigger margin.
And while polls do not usually overestimate the same party three cycles in a row, it has happened before. By dismissing the current polls out of hand, Biden and his campaign are turning a blind eye (at least publicly) to the possibility that polls will underestimate support for Trump again this year. https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-lea...y?id=108062780
Trump is the devil? No, he's just a joke who is absolutely inept, and uses people for his own wealth and his own gains.
Sounds more like Joe Biden. Never had a job in the private sector or created a job and has been getting rich in government since 1973. If that is not a bad joke, I don't know what is.
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For years, we've all seen him, heard him and watched him in action. He's a sad failure.
Sad failure? That's TDS talking. Compared to Joe Biden and his coke and meth head son, Trump and his family are very successful. That's envy talking.
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Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc
If you still support him today, I'd do some serious soul searching as to what you see redeeming in him, and why you think that way, exactly.
Coming from a New Yorker with all their issues that supports Biden and the Democrat party in that city that used to be great, I find your soul searching comment funny and you are just in a bubble.
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He has declared bankruptcy numerous times, & I despise people who rip off workers ( not paying them)
I have no idea about his adult children & how they would fare in a life apart from their Dad. Nepotism is not a good judge of character or competency. The boys really don't seem that bright.
Biden surged into the lead in the Reuters/Ipsos poll of registered voters today. He trailed by 6% in that poll back in January. It has drifted slowly in favor of Biden since then and he tool a 1 point lead in the latest rendition.
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That's TDS talking. Compared to Joe Biden and his coke and meth head son, Trump and his family are very successful. That's envy talking.
