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When asked about Osama bin Laden, Obama had this to say:
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"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr," he added. "And to assure that the United States government is abiding by basic conventions that would strengthen our hand in the broader battle against terrorism."
So what would he suggest?
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"It does not make sense for me to speculate in terms of what the best approach would be in trying him and bringing him to justice," Obama said.
As you know you turned your two quotes around in backwards order.
He didnt suggest anything - why do you imply otherwise?
"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr,"
He also said "I dont know that we will take him alive." He has also said we MUST find him and bring him to justice, unlike others who have said "I dont really think about him all that much anymore."
Nice to see someone who thinks these things through with his uppermost thought being that the United States be perceived as making just and righteous decisions.
He's right about the martyr question. I know the fun knee-jerk reaction to capturing and punishing Bin Laden is tear him limb from limb on American Idol, but in real life our decision as to his fate would be, will be, a supreme example of our justice that we make to the world.
"I refuse to be lectured on national security by people who are responsible for the most disastrous set of foreign policy decisions in the recent history of the United States. The other side likes to use 9/11 as a political bludgeon. Well, let’s talk about 9/11.
The people who were responsible for murdering 3,000 Americans on 9/11 have not been brought to justice."
They are Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda and their sponsors – the Taliban. They were in Afghanistan. And yet George Bush and John McCain decided in 2002 that we should take our eye off of Afghanistan so that we could invade and occupy a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. The case for war in Iraq was so thin that George Bush and John McCain had to hype the threat of Saddam Hussein, and make false promises that we’d be greeted as liberators. They misled the American people, and took us into a misguided war.
Here are the results of their policy. Osama bin Laden and his top leadership – the people who murdered 3000 Americans – have a safe-haven in northwest Pakistan, where they operate with such freedom of action that they can still put out hate-filled audiotapes to the outside world. That’s the result of the Bush-McCain approach to the war on terrorism," - Barack Obama, yesterday
As you know you turned your two quotes around in backwards order.
He didnt suggest anything - why do you imply otherwise?
"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr,"
He also said "I dont know that we will take him alive."
Nice to see someone who thinks these things through with his uppermost thought being that the United States be perceived as making just and righteous decisions.
He's right about the martyr question. I know the fun knee-jerk reaction to capturing and punishing Bin Laden is tear him limb from limb on American Idol, but in real life our decision as to his fate would be, will be, a supreme example we make to the world.
You dont agree?
Of course I turned the quotes around. I'm surprised anyone actually read the article.
Still, Obama has no ideas how to deal with Osama. He just doesn't want to make him a martyr. Well I think everyone can agree with that. Nice limb he's going out on here.
Of course I turned the quotes around. I'm surprised anyone actually read the article.
That remains a reliable assumption, Karl, but it doesnt yet work on everyone.
Dont turn teh quotes around anymore k k
The people who dont read seize on it and refuse to let go, because the only way to point them to making a reasoned decision is to ask them to read further.
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
Still, Obama has no ideas how to deal with Osama. He just doesn't want to make him a martyr. Well I think everyone can agree with that. Nice limb he's going out on here.
He's not going out on a limb and saying some irresponsible wild-eyed knee-jerk thing to gain points in some BS poll.
He's being thoughtful and considering of the results, being honest. That's bad?
BO: You know, first of all, I think there is an executive order out on Osama bin Laden's head, and if I'm president and we had the opportunity to capture him, we may not be able to capture him alive. I think it does not make sense for me to speculate in terms of what the best approach would be in trying him and bringing him to justice. I think what would be important would be for us to do it in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr and to sure that the United States government is abiding by the basic conventions that would strengthen our hand in the broader battle against terrorism. You know I've used this analogy before but one of the hallmarks, one of the high water points, I think, of US foreign policy, was the Nuremburg Trials. Because the world had not seen before victors behave in ways that advanced a set of universal principles. And that set a tone for post-war reconstruction and creation of an international order that I think was extraordinarily important. Yeah.
He doesn't want to speculate, then continues to do so. That's awesome.
I do agree with him there though. Making OBL a martyr would be just as bad as leaving him free and not bringing justice against all the terrorist attacks he's been a part of. Hopefully, Obama will realize that it is our interventionist foreign policy that allowed OBL to find a voice that resonated with people who didn't want us on their holy lands.
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