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The Obama campaign thought that they could go, leave the press corps on the tarmac, and then take off with military escort and make this one last visit. As he did in Iraq, by the way. He visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation. But the military said that the rules are that he could only go as part of a previously-arranged congressional delegation, to Ramstein.
He could go as a Senator without his campaign staff. So what is your point? I don't need to re-read the OP the fact still remains he made a choice not to go. He knew the DOD rules as he has gone to bases before in this case it would not be the photo op he wanted so he snubbed the wounded soilders to go shopping in Berlin instead. Pathetic, worthless, vile all come to mind when I think of young men and women fighting for our freedom, the freedom for Michelle Obama to say how she is not proud of America, to be snubbed by such an arrogant waste as Barack Hussein Obama. He could have gone and chose not to! He could not take his paid for photo crew or campaign while at the base but he could go as a US Senator and chose not to not. Disgusting!
He could go as a Senator without his campaign staff. So what is your point? I don't need to re-read the OP the fact still remains he made a choice not to go.
No you do you need to read as you continue to make an ass of yourself. The only thing that is disgusting is your willful ignorance of these matters.
The Pentagon deemed his trip political - period. It was THEIR choice, not Obama's to prohibit the visit.
I can't wait to hear who from the Pentagon is responsible for the ridiculous action.
He could go as a Senator without his campaign staff. So what is your point? I don't need to re-read the OP the fact still remains he made a choice not to go. He could have gone and chose not to! He could not take his paid for photo crew or campaign while at the base but he could go as a US Senator and chose not to not. Disgusting!
Ok let's cut down the quotation even more for you:
"previously-arranged congressional delegation"
As in, they said he couldn't just ditch his staff and the press and visit.
No you do you need to read as you continue to make an ass of yourself. The only thing that is disgusting is your willful ignorance of these matters.
The Pentagon deemed his trip political - period. It was THEIR choice, not Obama's to prohibit the visit.
I can't wait to hear who from the Pentagon is responsible for the ridiculous action.
The willful ignorance seems to be coming from you. The Obama campaign said that they cancelled the trip themselves. They were told that Obama could visit, but not with his campaign entourage. Read some more recent reports instead of just going with what Andrea Mitchell "heard" earlier on.
``The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign,'' spokesman Robert Gibbs (Obama spokeman) said in a statement.
Pentagon spokeswomen Pentagon spokeswoman Elizabeth Hibner said the base was ``prepared to host him, but his campaign canceled the visit.''
Obama ``was told he could visit as an official but he cannot come in an election capacity, not visit with his campaign staff,'' Hibner said in a telephone interview. She said Obama did make phone calls today to wounded soldiers at the base.
No you do you need to read as you continue to make an ass of yourself. The only thing that is disgusting is your willful ignorance of these matters.
The Pentagon deemed his trip political - period. It was THEIR choice, not Obama's to prohibit the visit.
I can't wait to hear who from the Pentagon is responsible for the ridiculous action.
Such ignorance here try reading outside of the pmsnbc box for once. Obama could have gone arrangements had already been made for his staff off base, but that was not the photo back drop Obamanation wanted so he snubbed our troops for shopping. You are the moron for not looking into more than one source before you try to get in a c*ck fight. With a female who just won I might add.
Geoff Morrell, Pentagon press secretary, said the military had arranged for Obama to visit Landstuhl Army Regional Medical Center as a U.S. senator but not as a presidential candidate. That's because Pentagon policy prohibits campaigning at military sites. The ground rules should be familiar to Obama since they governed a recent visit he made to Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Morrell said. The Pentagon arranged for Obama to visit Landstuhl and for his campaign staff and traveling press corps to be accommodated at a nearby airport, Morrell said. "The Obama campaign was advised that Sen. Obama would be most welcome to visit Landstuhl or any other military hospital in his official capacity as a United States senator," Morrell said. "But his campaign staff would not be."
The view from the Pentagon Did the Pentagon discourage Obama from visiting Landstuhl? "No," says Pentagon spokesperson Bryan Whitman.
Did the Pentagon tell Senator Obama that it was inappropriate for him to visit because he is on a campaign trip? "No. That's inaccurate," Whitman said.
Was Obama's Senate office told that he and his Senate staff could visit the facility? "Absolutely."
"As a sitting United States senator, Obama obviously has an official interest in the well being of our service members and how the wounded are being treated," Whitman said, adding:"He is welcome to visit a military medical center any time that he wants to. As you all know, we do have certain policy guidelines for political campaigns and elections and what is appropriate and what's not appropriate in those situations," Whitman said. "The Pentagon did not tell the senator that he could not visit Landstuhl."
"If you are both a sitting senator and a political candidate when you are doing things like a visit to Landstuhl, you need to do it in your capacity as a sitting senator or you have to do it with the restrictions that apply," Whitman added. Those restrictions include the law that campaign events may not be conducted on a military installation.
Seems pretty clear-cut to me. Obama couldn't USE the troops as a campaign prop. Simple.
the whole frigging trip was political and staged.
good grief!
obama did not go because he would not get to use our wounded troops as a
photo prop.
he had rather work out.
what a jerk.
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