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Old 10-10-2008, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/us.../10donate.html

Looks like even the in-the-tank-for-obama NYTimes is finding it hard to stomach Obama's fraudulent fundraising.

No wonder he is outspending McCain 3-1 in the battleground states.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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Shucks, I guess he's broke now.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:02 AM
 
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He is trying to buy this election with dirty money.

He did this to Hillary.

It is clear he has a huge effort to steal this election either by buying it or stealing it through fraud.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:07 AM
 
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From the article:

"It appears that campaign finance records for Senator John McCain, the Republican nominee, contain far fewer obviously false names, although he has taken in about $200 million in contributions, less than half Mr. Obama’s total. Mr. McCain did collect about $173,000 from donors who appear in campaign finance records with only a name and have no other identifying information. Mr. Obama collected about $314,000 from such donors."

So, a) it's happening on both sides, and b) it represents less than 1/10 of 1% in each campaign. It'd say that's a pretty miniscule portion of the total, and doesn't really warrant a comment about whether "donors are being adequately vetted".
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:09 AM
 
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From your link.

"An analysis of campaign finance records by The New York Times this week found nearly 3,000 donations to Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, from more than a dozen people with apparently fictitious donor information. The contributions represent a tiny fraction of the record $450 million Mr. Obama has raised. But the questionable donations — some donors were listed simply with gibberish for their names — raise concerns about whether the Obama campaign is adequately vetting its unprecedented flood of donors.

It is unclear why someone making a political donation would want to enter a false name. Some perhaps did it for privacy reasons. Another, more ominous possibility, of course, is fraud, perhaps in order to donate beyond the maximum limits.

There is no evidence that questionable contributions amount to anything more than a small portion of Mr. Obama’s fund-raising haul. The Times’s analysis, conducted over a few days and looking for obvious anomalies, like names or addresses with all consonants, identified about $40,000 in suspect contributions that had not been refunded by the campaign as of its last filing with the Federal Election Commission, in September.

It appears that campaign finance records for Senator John McCain, the Republican nominee, contain far fewer obviously false names, although he has taken in about $200 million in contributions, less than half Mr. Obama’s total. Mr. McCain did collect about $173,000 from donors who appear in campaign finance records with only a name and have no other identifying information. Mr. Obama collected about $314,000 from such donors."


Sanrene, reading comprehension problems? "More than a dozen" does not constitute thousands.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:18 AM
 
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It is obvious that the billionaire sponsors of Obama also poured money into most of the media.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:19 AM
 
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"Although campaigns have long wrestled with questionable donations, Sheila Krumholz, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, said the record-setting number of new donors Mr. Obama has drawn, many of them online, presents new challenges to a compliance system that remains stuck in the past.
Ms. Krumholz pointed out, however, that it would take an extraordinary amount of coordination to pull off widespread fraud."
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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He is trying to buy this election with dirty money.

He did this to Hillary.

It is clear he has a huge effort to steal this election either by buying it or stealing it through fraud.
"There is no evidence that questionable contributions amount to anything more than a small portion of Mr. Obama’s fund-raising haul. The Times’s analysis, conducted over a few days and looking for obvious anomalies, like names or addresses with all consonants, identified about $40,000 in suspect contributions that had not been refunded by the campaign as of its last filing with the Federal Election Commission, in September."
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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Like what I predicted, under Obama rule, taxpayers money and government time will be wasted on investigating fraud, corruption and cheating.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:23 AM
 
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So, it happened on both sides - so what?
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