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Old 10-18-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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So when an innocent child is struck down with cancer there's a reason and it was all done under God's control?

Thanks, but not my God.

NO NO NO

If a child has a disease or disorder, you have to help yourself find the treatment or cure. God will guide you to the treatment.

If you just sit there and do nothing, God will not guide you to the treatment.

THIS ACTUALLY WORKS !!!!!!!


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If you see red flags and potential danger and you did not do anything, GOD will not help you.


If you see red flags and potential danger and you helped yourself stop the danger, then GOD will help/guide you find a way to stop the danger.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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NO NO NO

If a child has a disease or disorder, you have to help yourself find the treatment or cure. God will guide you to the treatment.

If you just sit there and do nothing, God will not guide you to the treatment.

THIS ACTUALLY WORKS !!!!!!!


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If you see red flags and potential danger and you did not do anything, GOD will not help you.


If you see red flags and potential danger and you helped yourself stop the danger, then GOD will help you find a way to stop the danger.

I've seen far too much pain & suffering inflicted on those who've tried to help themselves and/or their child to believe this to be true.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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No. and Not. there is not a GOD.
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If you are a religious person, do you pray about elections? If so, have you prayed about past elections? If you have prayed about past elections, have you given God credit for having a hand in the outcome?

If you're praying that McCain wins this election and Obama wins instead, will you believe that God wanted Obama to win, or will you believe that some other force came into play. And if so, what?
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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I've seen far too much pain & suffering inflicted on those who've tried to help themselves and/or their child to believe this to be true.
A LOT OF PAIN And suffering go with helping yourself, just don't give up. People will throw stones and poke fun at you. But God will help you.

Look at what happened to slavery, gay rights, etc.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:44 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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A LOT OF PAIN And suffering go with helping yourself, just don't give up. God will help you.

Look at what happened to slavery, gay rights, etc.

OH NO! Let's not get God involved in gay-rights, that's sure to get the 'righteous' up in arms

At best I think earth is God's Ant Farm (that toy you may have had as a child), an amusement.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:58 AM
 
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If everything is God's will then you are saying disobedience to God's will is God's will and that the concept of hell and Lucifer are no longer relevant. I was always taught that heaven was God's to give and ours to lose. That we could never attain heaven by our acts, but our acts could keep us from God's side.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:04 AM
 
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I don't believe in any of it but from my days as a child I remember people asking why God doesn't end things like hunger, famine, death etc......and the answer was always that God left humanity to make it's own decisions. Why would it be any different for the election? This country covers the 7 deadly sins easily and with all of the death and destruction caused by our government why would you think that God has anything to do with it?

Think about this. If God was involved in our elections he must hate America because he put Bush in office for 8 years. Rev. Wright must have been correct then with 'God Damn America" because he damned us all with Bush.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:07 AM
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I talk with God about my concerns but, in the end, I just pray "Thy will be done."

And then I vote.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:14 AM
 
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GOD IS IN CONTROL...........We think we are but NO HE IS IN CONTROL,even if we don't like the outcome. There is a reason and GOD knows the reason !!!!!!
Then why are things in such a fricking mess?

Or is god like a kid on a sunny day with a magnifying glass and randomly frying ants on a sidewalk to see what the ants as a whole do.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:15 AM
 
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I talk with God about my concerns but, in the end, I just pray "Thy will be done."

And then I vote.
Hopefully you utilize your ability to reason and your free will to make the decision of who you vote for?
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