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Old 10-24-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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As has been noted in numerous postings on the forum and from myself, a concern that a Democratic majority in government opens the possibility for a return to politics down the throat style that we all were witness to from 2000 to 2006. Even until recently, the Congress has only just started to exercise its oversight responsibilities but I fear lust for influence may usurp wisdom.

Whenever there is an imbalance in government and any single party has control (especially a super majority) over Congress and the Executive, there is a temptation present to use the authority to progress a set of ideals almost without challenge. Republicans were unable to temper their lust and curb their temptations, will this also be the fate of Democrats in the coming years?

Of course most in Democratic circles will say with force, no, but already we can see potential signs of this occurring.

In New York, Michael Bloomberg along with the City Council have taken upon themselves to subvert the will of the people and extend term limits. This appears to be a quite in your face grab for power and since it is fairly well known that Bloomberg has many ties to prominent Democrats, it paints the beginning of this next era of politics in a dim light.

They say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and neither Republicans nor Democrats seem to be able to shun this temptation.

Bloomberg vows to mend relations in city politics -- Newsday.com (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nyterm1025,0,6813559.story - broken link)
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:35 PM
 
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If there is any sign of that kind of thing there will be another lawmaker election in 2 years and the people would punish the Democrats if they don't toe the line and behave reasonably. I think it would take them at least 4 years to undo some of the damage done during the last 8.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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we'll take the risk!!!!
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:40 PM
 
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Well for the good of the country I certainly hope Democrats will exercise better judgment and wisdom, I sincerely do. I can also understand the temptation it must be to end up in a position where there are few voices to say, no, you cannot or should not do that. This lack of balance can be a good thing when the whole is going in the right direction but as we all know, it can be a disaster if it isn't.

Personally I prefer more parity and I hope Republicans find the party of old again as it seems many of the parties more intellectual and influential members are already trying to do.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:46 PM
 
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Well for the good of the country I certainly hope Democrats will exercise better judgment and wisdom, I sincerely do. I can also understand the temptation it must be to end up in a position where there are few voices to say, no, you cannot or should not do that. This lack of balance can be a good thing when the whole is going in the right direction but as we all know, it can be a disaster if it isn't.

Personally I prefer more parity and I hope Republicans find the party of old again as it seems many of the parties more intellectual and influential members are already trying to do.
I think the Democrats are seeing what happened from the Republicans screwing up by pushing agenda that wasn't wise and balanced. I don't think they will risk making those same mistakes. I actually think Obama is far too wise and level headed to lead in that direction. He has a strong sense of balance.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:20 PM
 
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I think the Democrats are seeing what happened from the Republicans screwing up by pushing agenda that wasn't wise and balanced. I don't think they will risk making those same mistakes. I actually think Obama is far too wise and level headed to lead in that direction. He has a strong sense of balance.
They will make the same mistake the Republicans made.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:25 PM
 
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You'll need to give a better example than that.

Bloomberg isn't even a Democrat, so isn't this an example of bi-partisanshsip on the part of council members who voted across party lines to give the guy a shot at another term...He is former GOP as well??

What the Dems did is ensure that no one from their party will become Mayor for another term.

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Old 10-24-2008, 10:26 PM
 
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I think the Democrats are seeing what happened from the Republicans screwing up by pushing agenda that wasn't wise and balanced. I don't think they will risk making those same mistakes. I actually think Obama is far too wise and level headed to lead in that direction. He has a strong sense of balance.
I honestly don't see Obama doing this so much as Congressional Democrats of the Pelosi-Reid flavor. With fingers on the purse strings, its a hard thing to resist. I only hope they do
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:30 PM
 
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When Obama vetos the first pork-filled piece of Democratic-congress legislation, he will earn my respect.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:34 PM
 
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I think even the most thick-skulled in Congress realize that America is a hair trigger away from forming a TTBO* party. Every politician in Washington who voted for the bailout got thousands of phone calls saying "If you vote for this you're finished."

They're sweating hoping their constituents forget. The next two years is going to be a big game of cover your ass.

*Throw The Bums Out
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