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Old 10-26-2008, 09:31 AM
 
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From a former speech writer and special assistant to Bush:

"McCain's awful campaign is having awful consequences down the ballot. I spoke a little while ago to a senior Republican House member. 'There is not a safe Republican seat in the country,' he warned. 'I don't mean that we're going to lose all of them. But we could lose any of them.'

In the Senate, things look, if possible, even worse.

I'm not suggesting that the RNC throw up its hands. But down-ballot Republicans need to give up on the happy talk about how McCain has Obama just where he wants him, take off their game faces and say something like this:

We're almost certainly looking at a Democratic White House. I can work with a Democratic president to help this state. But we need balance in Washington."

Like rats off a sinking ship.

Sorry, Senator. Let's Salvage What We Can. - washingtonpost.com
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:35 AM
 
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McCain has little to do with the sinking ship of the RNC, you can ble Bush for that. While he entered the office a fiscal conservative, he leaves as a liberal. He has allowed the Congress to blame him for problems that they caused, and he has encouraged and supported the biggest governmental takeover/bailout of businesses since Cuba became Communist.

Unfortunately for McCain, he's tied up in the stockade of the ship, unable to fend for himself. Poeples attitudes are, Wall Street got a bailout, where is theirs, which plays right into the hands of the, give me america that we live in today.

If anything, 2 years of total Democratic control will revitalize the Republican party to get their acts together like they did under Clinon. Until then, its a crabs getting out of a barrel mentality for all Americans who fail to understand that bailouts and socialism is wrong.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:36 AM
 
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Actually tearing down the current repuke party and rebuilding it to what it was 50 - 60 years ago would be good for the party and the country.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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You can't blame McCain for the whole of the Republican Party's travails. 8 years of Bush & Co and all the conservative Congressmen had more to do with it. Their policies of governance and economic theory have come to full fruition and the public doesn't like the results very much. McCain just jumped on board with the main Repub's policies and the rest of us don't like it at all.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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you can't blame conservative republicans for people not understanding the difference in power between a republican congress and the democratic congress that we have had for the last 2 years. not only did they not fix anything, but things are actually worse since the democrats took charge. they have had the power and they have done nothing, yet people are still hoping for change under the democrats. if they vote for the democrats they will get 4 more years like the last 2.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:53 AM
 
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No Bush is to blame, but it is not because he is a liberal. It is because he had his eye on a "legacy" as the great democracy president and he did not care what he did to the country to get it including trying to suspend our own democratic rights. He operated as a president, as he had as a businessman. He did what he wanted, enjoyed the hi life and then when it all fell apart, walked away. That is who you supported all those years, a spoilt rich boy who did not give a da.. about anyone or anything.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:54 AM
 
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Florida, nice try but without a veto proof or filibuster proof majority, your guys were still basically in the driver's seat, but that will soooooon change OBAMA 08
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:56 AM
 
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Actually tearing down the current repuke party and rebuilding it to what it was 50 - 60 years ago would be good for the party and the country.
Agreed. The neo-cons have to go. And republicans need to return to our traditional strengths: fiscal conservatism, less government, lower taxes for individuals and business. Social issues such as abortion and gay marriage are important but can't be the main thrust anymore. This will turn off the social conservatives but will attract more moderate folks. There's a huge swath of center-right voters that republicans have abandoned to placate the social conservatives. These folks are a natural constituency, especially since the democrats are now hostage to the hard core / moveon.org left.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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Actually tearing down the current repuke party and rebuilding it to what it was 50 - 60 years ago would be good for the party and the country.
It would be good to see them finally unload the Christian Conservative movement that they've latched onto. It's what's destroying them. Mainstream America is not way over to the right nor is it way over to the left. All I see on TV when I see Palin or McCain is a pack of uneducated idiots who say things like "Obama is a terrorist" or "Obama is an Arab". Just stupid. I really don't like to mock people's religious beliefs, but when the candidates for the Republican nomination raised their hands when asked who didn't believe in evolution, that was "it" for a lot of people. I'm sorry, but if you think the universe was created in six days, you are just incredibly stupid.

Notice McCain said he believed in evolution, and won the nomination easily. It went downhill after he invited in the religious crazies when he picked Palin.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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you can't blame conservative republicans for people not understanding the difference in power between a republican congress and the democratic congress that we have had for the last 2 years. not only did they not fix anything, but things are actually worse since the democrats took charge. they have had the power and they have done nothing, yet people are still hoping for change under the democrats. if they vote for the democrats they will get 4 more years like the last 2.
The Democratic House and Senate had a small majority - much too small to force in their bills. They had to get a number of Republicans to sign on for every bill. it is stupid to blame everything on them. If they had a veto-proof majority, then you would have an argument.

Our current problems didn't happen overnight and are the culmination of 30 years of stupid neo-con policies. Clinton signed on for a lot of the neo-con ideology as well - especially in the economic arena. Even Ayn Rand loving Alan Greenspan admitted to the failure of the ideology.
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