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Old 11-10-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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True to some extent but when the election is over you have to be nice to the team and not try to divide it even more! Serves nobody any good for McCain's team to throw her under the bus or for her to throw George under the bus. It makes the Republicans seem disorganized or appear to be in a state of disarray.

And the term Messiah for Obama.. he is not my Messiah, no more so than George W is yours!
The republicans have been in a state of disarray for years now. I can only hope that they will revisit the tenets of actual conservatism and reject their courting of the religious right.

You are right and my apologies --- Obama is not the Messiah, and that was a low blow from me
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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I wonder if we should all pitch in and send Sarah a mirror so she has a clear picture of where some of the blame lies.
Sadly, she's still in denial....
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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Sadly, she's still in denial....
Too much Moose Chili!
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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I was really afraid this is what would happen. Now the GOP doesn't even have to look at their own behavior because it was impossible for them to win after Bush. What a load. We were going to be rid of Bush regardless of who won the election and they would have both been a much better president.

Of the Republicans I know that voted Obama, the choice was not so much about Palin, but about McCain's choice of Palin. When the country needed a steady hand, a good decision maker despite what their party thought, a real maverick, he made himself look like he'd do anything to win the election..the country be damned. Then every time Palin opened her mouth she proved when you don't think about your decisions carefully, bad things come your way. I don't blame her for being an idiot, she can't really help that and you can't fix stupid. But it really made me question why McCain would run with an idiot...and there are no good answers to that question.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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"Gov. Sarah Palin blames the Bush administration for the failure of the McCain-Palin ticket"

There seems to be a lot of people being thrown under the bus of late.. first McCain's aides threw Palin and she seems to be dragging George with her!

What a mess! Thoughts?

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 11/10/2008 | Palin's own words: 'Amazing we did as well as we did'

I think she's pretty much correct. Bush set up the GOP for inevitable failure this election, with the dismal condition of the country's economy, and especially for the extremely poor decision of invading Iraq. Even if we "win" over there, what exactly is it that we are winning? I mean, what will we eventually have to show for all the billions of $$$ we've spent over there? Purge Iraq of evil? Yeah...sure...for a week or two maybe. Saddam was an evil tyrant dictator, but as soon as we leave there's a 10,000 more where he came from...willing and ready to step in. The Iraqi people are just not salivating in anticipation at the thought of becoming a "Little America"...ain't gonna happen. It was Iraq when we went in, and it will still be Iraq when we leave...
Bush has ticked off A LOT of people...a majority of voters want absolutely nothing to do with him or his policies. Palin isn't dragging "George" down with her, it is the other way around...


Bud

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I wonder if we should all pitch in and send Sarah a mirror so she has a clear picture of where some of the blame lies.
Or a phonecard (with Russian access?) so she can call someone who gives a damn?
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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"Gov. Sarah Palin blames the Bush administration for the failure of the McCain-Palin ticket"

There seems to be a lot of people being thrown under the bus of late.. first McCain's aides threw Palin and she seems to be dragging George with her!

What a mess! Thoughts?

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 11/10/2008 | Palin's own words: 'Amazing we did as well as we did'
She need look no further than the mirror.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: The Coldest Place
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Too bad Sarah will probably never realize that she and John are to blame as well.

They wanted to talk smack about the other guy (which they stupidly, publicly announced), with the backdrop of 8 years of Bush.

The other guy wanted to talk about fixing the country.

No brainer.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:42 PM
 
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I've said this before... I'll say this again... Palin did not lose this election for McCain. McCain lost this election for McCain. He saw some strategic advantages in selecting Palin to appeal to the base and possibly attract independent women and Hillary supporters over some certifiable risks. In the end the risks outwieghed than the benefits. Only part of that objective was fulfilled. Sure she played a significant role in driving away women, independents and Hillary supporters, but she rallied the base to vote. On election day a significant percentage of votes were cast for Palin as well as McCain. They just weren't enough.

In the end it was a combination of Bush's legacy, the economy, and Palin's prescence ticket didn't help. But in the end it was the lack of focused message on the campaign trail that cost the GOP votes this year.


I'm an Obama supporter but somehow 52 Million people found a reason to vote for McCain/Palin.

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:46 PM
 
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I've said this before... I'll say this again... Palin did not lose this election for McCain. McCain lost this election for McCain. He saw some strategic advantages in selecting Palin to appeal to the base and possibly attract independent women and Hillary supporters. Only part of that objective was fulfilled. Sure she played a significant role in driving away women, independents and Hillary supporters, but she rallied the base to vote. On election day a significant percentage of votes were cast for Palin as well as McCain. They just weren't enough.

In the end it was a combination of Bush's legacy, the economy, and lack of focused message on the campaign trail. Palin's prescence ticket didn't help... it didn't hurt either.


I'm an Obama supporter and somehow 52 Million people found a reason to vote for McCain/Palin
She energized the wrong part of the base.
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