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the statement is racist, but disguised as something else
Yeah, yeah...we know that you can read people's minds because you are a liberal. It is time now to get rid of ALL affirmative action laws and rules in the United States. Obama proves that it can be done. Of course, Obama himself said that he was able to get his college education because of affirmative action. I doubt that he will want to get rid of those racist laws.
No Democratic candidate for president has ever come so close to calling for an end to the era of identity-based affirmative action as has Barack Obama.
Since 2004, the first black major party nominee from either party has been offering comments suggesting that economic status should match or even trump race and gender as a criteria for who should benefit from the program — though he has yet to propose a specific policy, let alone one that matches his rhetoric.
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Such hints of a possible new policy focus are a relatively recent development from Obama, who once said that he had “undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in his own academic career, though he didn’t specify at what institution he had so benefited. Friends have since recalled him saying that he did not list his race on his Harvard Law School application, though the candidate has said only that "I have no way of knowing whether I was a beneficiary of affirmative action either in my admission to Harvard or my initial election to the Review."
No Democratic candidate for president has ever come so close to calling for an end to the era of identity-based affirmative action as has Barack Obama.
Since 2004, the first black major party nominee from either party has been offering comments suggesting that economic status should match or even trump race and gender as a criteria for who should benefit from the program — though he has yet to propose a specific policy, let alone one that matches his rhetoric.
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Such hints of a possible new policy focus are a relatively recent development from Obama, who once said that he had “undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in his own academic career, though he didn’t specify at what institution he had so benefited. Friends have since recalled him saying that he did not list his race on his Harvard Law School application, though the candidate has said only that "I have no way of knowing whether I was a beneficiary of affirmative action either in my admission to Harvard or my initial election to the Review."
Well, I hope that he does get rid of them but I highly doubt he will. One does not have to list their race or ethnicity for the college or place of business to know what or who they are. That is a lame excuse and nothing but a bunch of BS when people use that as an excuse. This I know because I used to and still do hire. There is no problem finding out anything I wish about anyone I please at any given time. The colleges do the same thing.
Well, I hope that he does get rid of them but I highly doubt he will. One does not have to list their race or ethnicity for the college or place of business to know what or who they are. That is a lame excuse and nothing but a bunch of BS when people use that as an excuse. This I know because I used to and still do hire. There is no problem finding out anything I wish about anyone I please at any given time. The colleges do the same thing.
I know, I guess that's why he said he had no way of knowing whether which why. He certainly seems be aware of the swinging pendulum, and to know it's time for the pendulum to swing toward economic-based aid only. In the article he also says it wouldnt be right for his kids to be offered financial aid because of their race, over a white kid who's in need.
Obama proves that it can be done. Of course, Obama himself said that he was able to get his college education because of affirmative action.
Two observations:
1) Those two sentences seem contradictory to me.
2) One person's success is not proof that the playing field is even slightly leveled. As more than one person observed, self-made men are seldom the product of just the self.
It was really awesome to see President Elect Obama joining President Bush at the White House today...as a Conservative Republican, I also have to say it was awesome to see that a black man will be President...I just wish he were a Conservative! Go ahead liberals...twist this all around and make it into something other than how I meant it!
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Originally Posted by carmac
It was really awesome to see President Elect Obama joining President Bush at the White House today...as a Conservative Republican, I also have to say it was awesome to see that a black man will be President...I just wish he were a Conservative! Go ahead liberals...twist this all around and make it into something other than how I meant it!
REALLY good post!!! If the GOP was filled with people like you,the world would be a much better place.
Affirmative action could end tomorrow and the Obama girls would still receive preferential treatment in education, hiring and promotion by virtue of who their parents are. This happens every day, all day long with wealthy, elite individuals of all races.
~ButterBrownBiscuit~
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Originally Posted by momonkey
I saw the smiles on the faces of blacks Nov. 5th and I truly am happy for them. I hope things go well for the Obama administration too. But I also have serious doubts about a very naive first term Senator with no executive experience and the most liberal voting record in the Senate taking the reins in a time of war and economic turmoil with Pelosi and Reed chomping at their respective bits. On the other hand this is a wonderful time to be a white male. We can perhaps now, finally address the horribly unfair policy of affirmative action that penalizes poor white males for being born poor, white and male. No other group is shunned in this way, and the idea that Obama's girls should be shown preferential treatment over a poor or working class white male in education, hiring and promotion is a social obscenity.
Affirmative action could end tomorrow and the Obama girls would still receive preferential treatment in education, hiring and promotion by virtue of who their parents are. This happens every day, all day long with wealthy, elite individuals of all races.
~ButterBrownBiscuit~
That doesn't make mandated affirmative action any less unjust. It simply (and falsely) addresses one form of preference by creating another, by adding race to a preferred set of categories which include wealth and "elitism" (whatever that means).
Bottom line: as presently iterated, mandated affirmative action does not take into account either wealthy members of minority groups (of which there are an increasing number) or the offspring of impecunious caucasians (whose numbers are simliarly burgeoning).
In this year which has witnessed the extraordinary event of an African-American's accession to the highest office in the land, let's keep our eye on the ball and walk the talk: "...not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
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Go ahead liberals...twist this all around and make it into something other than how I meant it! 
