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Hitler was prepared to take over the Vatican in a heartbeat if the Church caused too much trouble. Making a bold public statement may have sounded good but even more life would have been lost. Some people seem to ignore all the lives (Jewish and others) the Church secretly protected during the war. Pius XII was stuck between a rock and a hard place. That he was thought of quite highly and as a hero in the time after the war for what he did during the Nazi occupation is more telling to me than that leftists today attack him.
So, all this stuff about the pope being God's spiritual presence on earth and the lack of concern for nonspiritual issues is nothing but bold talk, then.
So, all this stuff about the pope being God's spiritual presence on earth and the lack of concern for nonspiritual issues is nothing but bold talk, then.
Well, I just couldn't help myself. I knew you would agree with the Cardinal because you do not like Obama either.
I know, it's a "liberal" thing that you just can't help yourself. I'll admit I don't like the boy, but, I don't hate him. To hate is to permit myself to be controlled. You might try the stance sometime, see how easier life is.
I know, it's a "liberal" thing that you just can't help yourself. I'll admit I don't like the boy, but, I don't hate him. To hate is to permit myself to be controlled. You might try the stance sometime, see how easier life is.
As with Republicans and Conservatives and Democrats and Liberals, so to Cardinals and Christians.
I will not hold the actions or words of one Cardinal against all Catholics, let alone all Christians, nor the actions of a past Pope against the current Church.
While I, too, am aghast at the formal stance of the Pope in 1942 and the disconnect in some of the current Church policies (and don't get me started on the children), there were many then and are many now who have stood up, who have spoken up, who have acted.
It's easy to attack the Church. They have huge borders of vulnerability.
This Cardinal seems to have added a new one. Joy.
Yes it is easy and it should remain so. God doesn't serve to divide humankind, religion does this, as yet another example stated above has come to show.
Did I say that? Uh, no, I didn't, but you said that I, DP, hate the messiah. So now that the shoe is on the other foot...
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