Do you think Obama would have been elected (democratic, liberals, Afghanistan)
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Obama couldn't have won by claiming to be a "Washington Outsider". That rhetoric works better with republicans. Obama won mostly because of how he handled himself, and his campaign. He was able to shrug off Atwater-Rovian style campaign and tactics from GOP that would have made McCarthy a proud papa.
To me, he demonstrated his capacity to think, on economy, on quality and diversity of people he chose to surround himself with, his focus, and intelligence. Many didn't give him the credit he deserved on his understanding of foreign issues, especially around Afghanistan and Pakistan, a thinking that America needed more than two decades ago.
Obama couldn't have won by claiming to be a "Washington Outsider". That rhetoric works better with republicans. Obama won mostly because of how he handled himself, and his campaign. He was able to shrug off Atwater-Rovian style campaign and tactics from GOP that would have made McCarthy a proud papa.
To me, he demonstrated his capacity to think, on economy, on quality and diversity of people he chose to surround himself with, his focus, and intelligence. Many didn't give him the credit he deserved on his understanding of foreign issues, especially around Afghanistan and Pakistan, a thinking that America needed more than two decades ago.
Yup. Though I always thought highly of Obama, it was during the economic crises in October (when McCain seemed to run around like a chicken with his head cut off) and during the Presidential debates (both times where Obama showed himself to be calm, clear and collected during while under pressure - especially when compared to McCain) that really increased my confidence that he was the right guy for the job. Based on how the polls behaved (with Obama increasing and solidifying his lead) it's a pretty good bet that I wasn't alone in drawing that conclusion.
The current problems with the economy are primarily because of the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac scandal, which is the Democrats mess. And yet they are the ones in charge of fixing it?
Give me a break!
Bush has kept us safe for the 7-1/2 years after 9-11, and that is the primary responsibility of the Commander in Chief.
So, you'll have to explain: What did he make a mess of?
The major negative events of the Bush administration were not caused by him: 9/11, Katrina, the real estate collapse.... One can fault how he responded to these events, but he did not cause them. I agree with nononsenseguy that he responded well to 9/11 as seen by the safety since 9/11 (who would have bet on 1/16/2002 that there would be no more attacks in the US for the next 7 years?). Some say he took 9/11 too far when he extended beyond Afghanistan to Iraq....
Bush will be judged by what happens in the middle east over the next 30 - 40 years. For as long as I can remember there has been unrest in the middle east. If a democratic Iraq stabilizes the region, then people will look back and credit Bush for that...
And Clinton kept us safe for 7-8 years, WITHOUT doing anything.
Right. Radical fundamentalist Islamic terrorist repeatedly attacked the US during his 8 years (from the first WTC attack to the Cole) and Clinton did nothing...
Right. Radical fundamentalist Islamic terrorist repeatedly attacked the US during his 8 years (from the first WTC attack to the Cole) and Clinton did nothing...
On US soil? Are you telling me US personnel/property has not been attacked since 9-11? And are you telling me another terrorist activity on US soil isn't being planned, right now?
If anything, Bush's policies have hurt America, and we will be paying for it, for a while. I don't expect many to get it though... if everybody did, we would not have had to deal with what we've been "terrorized" of.
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