GOP the party of mainstream America (voters, campaign, thought, democratic)

[happ]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

Here's where I saw post of Sarah Palin and McCain's support from:

- blue collar communities
- small towns and rural areas
- suburbs
- working class folks
- families
- veterans
- church going people

Here is Obama's base

- radical liberals
- the urban liberal elite
- Hollywood liberals
- radical leftists and hippies
- socialists
- black nationalists and black racists bent on racial identity politics
- illegal immigrants and anchor babies (the children of illegals)
- Jews
- Muslims

With the exception of Jews, none of the other elements of Obama's base can be considered part of mainstream America. Compare this with the Republican base and you'll see which party is out of touch with the real America.

Keep thinking your way & you will never again see a Republican in the White House & your party will forever be the "minority" party [ie impotent]. Smart Republicans know that the odds are horribly stacked against the GOP unless it changes "radically" [you seem to like that word Your type is the best gift possible to the Democrats

[JerZ]

From the time I was tiny and learning very heated politics (as well as quite a few words polite little girls are NEVER supposed to use) at my father's knee, all I ever heard was that the Democrats were the party of the working man.

Blue-collar families in particular. (We weren't. We were a white collar family and my husband and I are now a white collar family...we're quite comfortable but not wealthy. However, we are Dems and so was my father. I think he still considered himself "the working man" though; maybe the blue v. white distinction wasn't as solid then as far as what a "working family" was?)

So what gives? When did this changeover in how the parties are viewed occur? Or is it truly just a warped view on the part of people like the OP?

Please note that I'm not saying the OP is right about who "the base" is for each party. Actually, I snorted Peet's Coffee out my nose at his view of how my party (Dem) is apparently viewed. But as long as the commentary is out there, we may as well try to save it with something of at least a little value and substance. :P

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

Here's where I saw post of Sarah Palin and McCain's support from:

- blue collar communities
- small towns and rural areas
- suburbs
- working class folks
- families
- veterans
- church going people

Here is Obama's base

- radical liberals
- the urban liberal elite
- Hollywood liberals
- radical leftists and hippies
- socialists
- black nationalists and black racists bent on racial identity politics
- illegal immigrants and anchor babies (the children of illegals)
- Jews
- Muslims

With the exception of Jews, none of the other elements of Obama's base can be considered part of mainstream America. Compare this with the Republican base and you'll see which party is out of touch with the real America.

Well, that's a "no brainer". A lot of us have been saying that for a long time, and poll after poll prove it.

But it was fashionable to be for Obama. One of my sisters (who claims to be "born again" Christian) voted for Obama. She said she just couldn't stand McCain. But she had no idea what the issues were/are. I tried to tell her, but she just got mad at me. Fine Christian she is. It's my opinion that NO Christian should vote for ANY Democrat, because of what that Party stands for.

[golfgod]

Tom Lennox 70 wrote;

Obama is a good speaker and actor. That does not make him a good leader or any less liberal.

True, but GW Bush was a lousy actor, dancer and speaker. He also made a carppy leader. Reagan was a so-so actor, good dancer and great speaker, he was also a carppy leader who made people feel good. There is not connection between the attribtutes you list and ability as a leader.

golfgod

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by golfgod

, he was also a crappy leader who made people feel good

I wonder if that doesn't represent a contradiction in terms.

[FinkieMcGee]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

I wonder if that doesn't represent a contradiction in terms.

Maybe he meant crappy President.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by FinkieMcGee

Maybe he meant crappy President.

If he did, he'd be wrong in addition to being a crappy thinker and speller.

[JamesAbilene]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

Well, that's a "no brainer". A lot of us have been saying that for a long time, and poll after poll prove it.

But it was fashionable to be for Obama. One of my sisters (who claims to be "born again" Christian) voted for Obama. She said she just couldn't stand McCain. But she had no idea what the issues were/are. I tried to tell her, but she just got mad at me. Fine Christian she is. It's my opinion that NO Christian should vote for ANY Democrat, because of what that Party stands for.

I do not see how a Christian could ever vote for a Republican. Read the Gospels thoroughly without blinders on. The first Christians were almost Communist (in a defined, pure way--not as the party has morphed in Eastern Europe and Aisia). Christ's teachings almost fit the Democratic party to a T. Over and over, Christ scourges those who follow many of the Republican ideas and ideals. My wife and I tell people that we vote for Democrats BECAUSE we are Christians. Someday when I am not exhausted, I will look up scripture--Chapter and verse, and show you. (After saying all of this, I must confess that I have voted for some Republicans as recently as November 4, but they were more of the centrist variety than the far right variety.)

[southernnaturelover]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

If Bush hadn't been such a dolt, the stock market hadn't crashed, and the GOP had nominated someone younger than Methusaleh, the Dems would have had a real fight on their hands.

As it was, if the GOP had won the 2008 election, it would have been the greatest upset in politicial history.

Elephants are big and clumsy, but they don't forget where the traps are. The GOP will be back, largely neocon- and Jesus freak- free.

A lean mean middle-class machine.

I agree. I think John McCain was just too old, and Sarah Palin also didn't have enough experience. I think many people who in their heart wanted to vote republican just couldn't pull the lever for McCain/Palin. I myself was disappointed in McCain's performance in the debates. In 2012 the GOP is going to have to pick a candidate that is younger with quicker come backs, but also has experience. I wanted Mitt Romney to be nominated, but it just didn't work out that way.

[ELOrocks17]

Originally Posted by HubbleRules

As seen thru the eyes of a moron...

You are too hard on yourself...is this self depricating humor?