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Old 05-08-2009, 06:46 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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I would be afraid of a Catholic Republican. Most of them support amnesty for illegal aliens.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:26 PM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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The Catholic faith is like a Burger King menu now. You can pick and choose what you believe, you know - have it your way. Just ask Biden, Pelosi, John Kerry...
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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The Catholic faith is like a Burger King menu now. You can pick and choose what you believe, you know - have it your way. Just ask Biden, Pelosi, John Kerry...
That is not true at all. It isn't the people that make up Catholicism, it is Catholicism that SHOULD make the people. Just because they choose not to follow Church doctrine doesn't mean they represent all Catholics. In fact all three have been condemned numorous times by bishops and priests. Some even refuse to give them communion.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Speaking only for myself, the religion of a particular candidate is the last thing I would consider in a candidate. If even then. It just doesn't matter.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:01 AM
 
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That is not true at all. It isn't the people that make up Catholicism, it is Catholicism that SHOULD make the people. Just because they choose not to follow Church doctrine doesn't mean they represent all Catholics. In fact all three have been condemned numorous times by bishops and priests. Some even refuse to give them communion.
How do they not follow church doctrine? If you are referring to abortion, I have yet to hear that any of them ever had an abortion? They have been able to keep their religious faith while respecting the rights of others to divergent opinions and beliefs.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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How do they not follow church doctrine? If you are referring to abortion, I have yet to hear that any of them ever had an abortion? They have been able to keep their religious faith while respecting the rights of others to divergent opinions and beliefs.
The act of supporting abortion is as much of a mortal sin as having one. They also support contraception, gay marriages, and a whole slew of issues that spit in the face of the religion they claim to follow.

Edit-And God's moral law should transcend any huma court or law or opinion, if you were truly Catholic. This seperation of Church and State as an excuse to support certain positions is phony at best if you claim to be a Christian.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Alan Keyes, he may not be a candidate now but he has been, he's a traditional Catholic and Republican.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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Maybe these Catholics can distinguish between personal beliefs and the civil rights of others. I can be anti-abortion and against gay marriage and practice those beliefs by not partaking in either, but that doesn't mean I think that everyone else should follow my lead and share my beliefs.
That's the one of the worst pro-choice arguments that can be made, because it lacks a total understanding of why people oppose abortion. It would the same as saying, "I am against murder and demonstrate this by not murdering anyone, but that doesn't mean I think everyone else should follow my lead and share my beliefs or that there should be any laws against murder or worst of all punishment for those who exercise the freedom of choice to murder."

Any salient pro-choice argument has to start with the idea that abortion isn't murder, just as any pro-life argument has to start with the idea that it is. That is where the disagreement is.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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Why is it that they are all on the liberal side of the ticket? Catholics make up the biggest religious group in this country and their religious views are right in line with the republicans (abortion, family values, etc).

Why is the religious affiliation always
Republican => Evangelical Christion,
Democrat => Catholics

Any thoughts? I am looking at 2012 potentials and everyone except Romney is a Protestant.
The Republican party is pro-Protestant Evanglical Christian - but they are definitely NOT pro Catholic...

Remember the visit by Dubya to that bastion of racism and anti-Catholicism - Bob Jones University???

I believe MOST GOP presidential candidates have visited that bigoted school to kiss the hands of the religious right...
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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That is not true at all. It isn't the people that make up Catholicism, it is Catholicism that SHOULD make the people. Just because they choose not to follow Church doctrine doesn't mean they represent all Catholics. In fact all three have been condemned numorous times by bishops and priests. Some even refuse to give them communion.
I will just use the Kennedy family as an example, they are supposedly devout Catholics, yet they "are" the Democratic party. I don't understand how you can pick and choose what parts of religious doctrine you will follow and which you will reject.
Many Catholics who are pro-choice are worried about eating meat on Fridays during Lent, just don't get the disconnect.
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