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Old 08-06-2009, 06:54 PM
 
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What is a Patriot?

I want to know who is a Patriot.

I serve this country, my Grand Pop and my dad bled for this country in war.

I want to know who should we support if people from our own country refuse to give the first African American president a chance to succeed.

I refuse to believe that its because he wants a socialist government, that is an excuse made from losers. (The Republican Party)

Boy oh boy,

Most Americans wouldn't care if the President was purple or as white as a daisy.

Obama was given the chance to succeed when he was elected. Can anyone honestly say that it is "the people's" fault that Barack isn't succeeding?

Much of the reason for Barack's declining support is because of his Socialist behavior.


A Patriot is someone who will fight for freedom in this country. Even if that Patriot has to push back against an American government that is hell bent on excessive intrusion and over the top taxation.
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I might add that a Patriot is one who doesn't see the 4th as just another excuse for a barbecue.
A Patriot is proud of their country even when it's NOT the 4th of July.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I would have much more pride in my country if we stopped being the biggest bully on the planet. What gives us the right to use highly complex and expensive weapons to kill civilian villagers anywhere we please to do so? Is building a pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan so important that murder is justified? Not in my book.

BTW – I am a Nam Vet that took part in another Colonial War.
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Old 08-11-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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Thank you for your service.

Try to imagine the world without this great country. It's not perfect, no place is...but we have saved millions and millions of people around the globe. God Bless America!
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Earth
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A patriot doesn't run around calling himself a patriot.
A patriot works within the system to create change.
A patriot accepts all citizens.
A patriot never calls for the murder of a president (or anyone) that they don't agree with.
A patriot does not wear a flag or cross on its sleeve and assume that makes him a better citizen.
A patriot educates himself about the issues, turns off the TV and radio and learns/employs critical thinking skills.
A patriot doesn't spew talking points.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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Puts the best interests of the country before those of any political party.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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What is a Patriot?

I want to know who is a Patriot.

I serve this country, my Grand Pop and my dad bled for this country in war.

I want to know who should we support if people from our own country refuse to give the first African American president a chance to succeed.

I refuse to believe that its because he wants a socialist government, that is an excuse made from losers. (The Republican Party)
Patriots are people who stand up for the principals on which this country was founded. They are people who have read and understand the Constitution, and that it is a contract between the government and the people, that recognizes the rights of the people to be self evident, and not given by the government. People who are willing to stand up for those rights, when they are threatened by anyone outside or inside our borders. Stand up to government that illegally usurps powers not granted to it by the Constitution. Patriots rebel against the powers that would destroy liberty and enslave the people. That is what patriots are, and always have been.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Patriots are people who stand up for the principals on which this country was founded. They are people who have read and understand the Constitution, and that it is a contract between the government and the people, that recognizes the rights of the people to be self evident, and not given by the government. People who are willing to stand up for those rights, when they are threatened by anyone outside or inside our borders. Stand up to government that illegally usurps powers not granted to it by the Constitution. Patriots rebel against the powers that would destroy liberty and enslave the people. That is what patriots are, and always have been.


Patriots also recognize that it is 2009 and not 1789. While the Constitution is a brillant and time tested plan for republican government. We live in a time where technology and advances in virtually every form of human thought have made the world a very different place. For example I can travel in 3 hours the distance (a flight from St. Louis MO to Portland OR) it took Lewis and Clark a year to traverse in 1805. Our life expectancy is nearly twice that of George Washington's America and even exceeds that of the richest people in colonial America like the General. Our military can kill virtually everyone alive in the world of 1789 in a single hour.
Patriots understand that the interpretation of the Constitution has to be elastic to respond to our world and its challenges. The Constitution says nothing specific about medical care or nuclear weapons or global climate change. Why should it ? Yet any one of these of these could bring down this Republic far short of its 300th aniversary if we refuse to act based on the literal intrepretation of an 18th century document. Its kind of like basing your science on the Bible.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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Patriots also recognize that it is 2009 and not 1789. While the Constitution is a brillant and time tested plan for republican government. We live in a time where technology and advances in virtually every form of human thought have made the world a very different place. For example I can travel in 3 hours the distance (a flight from St. Louis MO to Portland OR) it took Lewis and Clark a year to traverse in 1805. Our life expectancy is nearly twice that of George Washington's America and even exceeds that of the richest people in colonial America like the General. Our military can kill virtually everyone alive in the world of 1789 in a single hour.
Patriots understand that the interpretation of the Constitution has to be elastic to respond to our world and its challenges. The Constitution says nothing specific about medical care or nuclear weapons or global climate change. Why should it ? Yet any one of these of these could bring down this Republic far short of its 300th aniversary if we refuse to act based on the literal intrepretation of an 18th century document. Its kind of like basing your science on the Bible.

This is a mature point. And well taken.

When Americans amend the constitution, to fit the times, some folks win and some folks lose.


It should be announced that Democrats in office are about to change America for the worse. Democrats these days really want Socialism.

Many voters want it too.


You can call me a conservative bastard if you want. Just because I don't live in "The Big City" on the East or West Coast.

There are a lot of Americans that live in between the coasts.


I guess it will come down to how people vote. And I guess Obama's glitz is starting to wear off.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Patriots also recognize that it is 2009 and not 1789. While the Constitution is a brillant and time tested plan for republican government. We live in a time where technology and advances in virtually every form of human thought have made the world a very different place. For example I can travel in 3 hours the distance (a flight from St. Louis MO to Portland OR) it took Lewis and Clark a year to traverse in 1805. Our life expectancy is nearly twice that of George Washington's America and even exceeds that of the richest people in colonial America like the General. Our military can kill virtually everyone alive in the world of 1789 in a single hour.
Patriots understand that the interpretation of the Constitution has to be elastic to respond to our world and its challenges. The Constitution says nothing specific about medical care or nuclear weapons or global climate change. Why should it ? Yet any one of these of these could bring down this Republic far short of its 300th aniversary if we refuse to act based on the literal intrepretation of an 18th century document. Its kind of like basing your science on the Bible.
The Constitution is not elastic. It is a legal contract. Contracts by their nature are to be strictly interpreted or else they have no weight in law. If you want changes in the Constitution you must amend it and that amendment must be ratified by every State in the Union. It is only when these principals are not adhered to that the Republic is in danger of disintegration. The problems which threaten us now are directly derived from a government that has usurped powers not granted to it by the Constitution. The people can no longer believe or support a government in which their interests are not represented. Our government is now controlled by special interests, which make their own laws and use the corrupt politicians to give them the appearance of legality.

When you can not tell the difference between a legal document and the Bible you have become part of the problem.
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