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Anyone who is denying that the Scott Brown victory in MA is "not important" are kidding themselves. We just saw Independents come out and defeat a Democratic Progressive in a hardcore Democratic/Liberal state.
The Democratic party is in a full-route mode right now. They are seriously vulnerable and are begining to eat each other up... PUBLICLY. They knonw Americans are angry and siastisfied and yet, the Progressive left continues to fight the Moderate Left in the Democratic party.
The Progressive left wants to continue in the same failed Obama/Reid/Pelosi policies of this past year. They want even more spending, want to even raise the amount of Debt they can create by 1.9 TRILLION per year. Hardline, far-left Progressive "solutions". Their "solutions" are nothing more than pages taken out of Saul Alinsky's book.
The problem with the Dems is the problem the GOP has faced for years: PROGRESSIVES infiltrated into their parties.
The Dem leadership is massively far-left Progressive. They are not Liberals; they are far-left Progressives. Just like Woodrow Wilson, that Progressive that got the USA involved in WWI and created the Federal Reserve!!
George W. Bush was a right-wing Progressive. Look at how he screwed up this country with the spending (term 2) and the Iraq war. Barry Hussein Obama is a far-left Progressive and his Congress is hardcore left Progressive. Look at how they are screwing up the USA NOW!!
The GOP is currently working on pushing for Conservative, non-Progressive candidates. They get it, that another Bush, a right-wing Progressive, will damage the party. The GOP has gotten it. Michael Steele is ensuring that any GOP candidate that does not adhere to at least 8 Conservative core principles (out of 10), it will receive no RNC funds. The GOP is going back to center-right, with Conservatives as a caucus.
So the question is: Will the Democrats also purge the Progressives out of their party before 2010 and go back to being a center-left party, with a Liberal caucus or will they be decimated by the GOP in 2010??
I understand the excitement, but I think that some may be overplaying Scott Brown's victory. It was only a few years ago that Republicans were talking about a "permanent Republican majority". They couldn't imagine Democrats ever taking control of Congress again. Things can change quickly and unexpectedly.
I understand the excitement, but I think that some may be overplaying Scott Brown's victory. It was only a few years ago that Republicans were talking about a "permanent Republican majority". They couldn't imagine Democrats ever taking control of Congress again. Things can change quickly and unexpectedly.
Forget Scott Brown. This is beyond GOP vs Dems. This is about inside party ideological fights of centrists, Conservatives, and Liberals vs Progressives.
By late 2004, during Bush's 2nd Term (who is a right-wing Progressive), the USA said WHOA and 2006 came and the GOP Congress was run out of office, many times because they allowed the Progressives to run the deficit up and pushed Progressive policies.
Now it's come full-circle. The Dems have far left Progressives as a President and in their leadership. The American people are shocked and horrified and angered in 1 year, just like they were 1 year after re-electing Bush in 2004.
So are the Dems going to take a whooping in Nov 2010 and beging their own purge iof Progressives, who will "disappear" into the background until they can run another Obama in 2016?? Or will they clean up house?
So are the Dems going to take a whooping in Nov 2010 and beging their own purge iof Progressives, who will "disappear" into the background until they can run another Obama in 2016?? Or will they clean up house?
I think they're going to clean-up house. In fact, I think they're scared sh*tless right now. Ironically, Scott Brown's victory may have done Democrats a favor. They've seen the future, and they don't like it. Many in the leadership of the Democratic Party are now publicly saying that they need to change what they're doing - quickly - if they want to survive.
I'm not sure what you mean by "getting rid of progressives by 2010". It's already 2010. They can't just kick out people who were elected by their constituents.
So a pro-choice Republican who views the Massachusetts same sex marriage law as settled and doesn't wish to change it defeats a Democrat in Massachusetts and it = an end of progressives?? Umm what??
Look the defeat in Massachusetts was obviously a blow to the Democrats, but to equate it with the end of progressives is just asinine. If an Inhofe type Republican can knock off Leahy in Vermont then you might be on to something. But the GOP winning a special election with a Pro-choice moderate in an open race does not even come close to meaning the end of progressives, even if that occurs in Massachusetts.....
Forget Scott Brown. This is beyond GOP vs Dems. This is about inside party ideological fights of centrists, Conservatives, and Liberals vs Progressives.
By late 2004, during Bush's 2nd Term (who is a right-wing Progressive), the USA said WHOA and 2006 came and the GOP Congress was run out of office, many times because they allowed the Progressives to run the deficit up and pushed Progressive policies.
Now it's come full-circle. The Dems have far left Progressives as a President and in their leadership. The American people are shocked and horrified and angered in 1 year, just like they were 1 year after re-electing Bush in 2004.
So are the Dems going to take a whooping in Nov 2010 and beging their own purge iof Progressives, who will "disappear" into the background until they can run another Obama in 2016?? Or will they clean up house?
Ehh most of the Republicans who lost in 2006 were conservatives. The only ones that weren't tended to represent liberal districts or states, such as Chafee who lost despite having a 63% approval rating
To compare how Obama is viewed now to how Bush was viewed at this point in 06 is completely asinine. The numbers aren't even remotely close.
I understand the excitement, but I think that some may be overplaying Scott Brown's victory. It was only a few years ago that Republicans were talking about a "permanent Republican majority". They couldn't imagine Democrats ever taking control of Congress again. Things can change quickly and unexpectedly.
I agree with you. He does have what might be good for the party, he is moderate, charming and of course very good looking. I hate to think these are things we vote on, but let's be honest, they do make a difference, plus he is a new face in the crowd..But, after the dems picked someone with no experience and got Obama, I am not sure the Republicans of the country will want to repeat...Let's see what transpires in another year...
as for you comment about a few years ago, isn't that what the Democrats have been saying for the past year plus? We are in control and the country will never swing back?
Nita
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