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Old 03-08-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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We are all one voice and we are the majority.

We do not follow our leader like sheep as most on the left do. ( why follow a leader that is taking you right off the cliff?)

Since you called them clowns I assume you know those you mentioned have ALL of the TOP NO. 1 shows, millions of No. 1 best selling books etc etc etc.

They are not full of hate. It is you who wants to spin it into your beliefs that is what they are saying.

If you listened long enough with an open mind you would see that they were dead on right about Obama and his socialist agenda.

Why do you care who is the voice anyway? Seems you have your mind made up to begin with?

So, who is the voice of the left? The failures Obama, Reid, Pelosi?

No wonder there is only 20% of liberals left in America and declining.

41% of us are conservatives. You are on the wrong side of right.

41% right wing????? I don't think so, the Progressives draw their base from; minorities 35% of the population
women 51%
educated anglos 5%


right wing from; religious and nascar fanatics, gun lovers, illiterate right wing extremists; 5-7%
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So, you are saying that 20% of the electorate elected a huge majority to the senate and house, what are you going to say next? that sarah(retard)
palin is brilliant?????
what happened in 2008 has nothing to do with much of anythinge except the fact many wanted to see anything resembling the last administration OUT!!! Take a look at 1980? This didn't mean much either except people wanted the Carter word gone!!!!!

No one said 20% of the electorate, the comment was made only 20% of the nation consider themselves liberal. And yes, 40 plus percent in a recent Gallop poll consider themselves conservative..

Nita
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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what happened in 2008 has nothing to do with much of anythinge except the fact many wanted to see anything resembling the last administration OUT!!! Take a look at 1980? This didn't mean much either except people wanted the Carter word gone!!!!!

No one said 20% of the electorate, the comment was made only 20% of the nation consider themselves liberal. And yes, 40 plus percent in a recent Gallop poll consider themselves conservative..

Nita
One thing to keep in mind is quite a few people might be fairly liberal, but consider themselves moderate. My dad for example, would generally consider himself a moderate if you were to ask him, but his views on the issues are almost uniformly liberal outside of perhaps the death penalty He is pro-choice, he is pro-gay marriage, very pro separation of Church and State, very pro gun-control, in favor of increasing taxes on those making over $250,000, in favor of the public option, against the Supreme Court ruling on Corporate $$ for campaigns. I think many people generally fit this scenario in which if you examine their views on the issues it might not reflect on how they would describe themselves.
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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These days we only hear troglodites like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Hannity, Retard Palin, and bill o'reilly spreading their ideological non-sense all over the place, and I ask to myself, other than the televangelists following, the animal killers and the hard core illiterate right wing, who listen to these obnoxious clowns???? they make absolutely no sense, and most of their speech is full of hate, every time I hear the crap they have to say, I feel like going 50 or 60 years back, there is no chance in hell that the republicans will re-take the white house with this kind of low level representation......
Other than Palin (which I personally think is unlikely), none of the people you listed will be running for any office. In fact, none of them are even politicians....not even Palin any more....she's just an author at this point and the others do political commentary on radio and TV.

It's hard say tell who the "voice" is of a party when they don't hold the white house but, as I said you didn't mention any one currently in office so, without mentioning any one that's currently in office, who's the voice of the democratic party?

I have to say as well, I don't read any less "hate" in your post, than I hear from any one you mentioned.

Unfortunately with the way our two party system works, we already know who will be representing the democratic party in the next presidential election so, if they lose it will be by default because of the poor job the current administration will have done. It's not a question of who the GOP has to offer, it's a question of what the current administration does right or wrong before 2012....just like what happened in 2008.
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:49 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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41% right wing????? I don't think so, the Progressives draw their base from; minorities 35% of the population
women 51%
educated anglos 5%


right wing from; religious and nascar fanatics, gun lovers, illiterate right wing extremists; 5-7%
You have been scammed into believing this crap? Think on your own.

Pay attention.

The latest polling shows

Conservative minded 41%
Independent minded 31%
Liberal minded 20%
Undecided 8%

So if the right is all that above then the left wing are what? Place your answer here-- Cannot wait to see this.


You can choose from these if you have to:
Baby killers, non family groupies, gays, atheist, welfare cheese eating socialist, uneducated not smarter the a 5th grader, anti American, anti rights, baskeeetball playing, non working min. wage government loving.

Oh, I forgot, the no moral values.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Who's the voice of the GOP
We have no leader or voice.

Makes it much harder for the democrats to attack a specific person.

In the end, they end up attacking the American people.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:01 AM
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We do not follow our leader like sheep as most on the left do. ( why follow a leader that is taking you right off the cliff?)

...I assume you know those you mentioned have ALL of the TOP NO. 1 shows, millions of No. 1 best selling books etc etc etc.
That seems contradictory.

You don't follow them, yet somehow they ALL manage to sell zillions of books and they ALL pull in zillions of viewers.

How is that, exactly?
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
You have been scammed into believing this crap? Think on your own.

Pay attention.

The latest polling shows

Conservative minded 41%
Independent minded 31%
Liberal minded 20%
Undecided 8%

So if the right is all that above then the left wing are what? Place your answer here-- Cannot wait to see this.


You can choose from these if you have to:
Baby killers, non family groupies, gays, atheist, welfare cheese eating socialist, uneducated not smarter the a 5th grader, anti American, anti rights, baskeeetball playing, non working min. wage government loving.

Oh, I forgot, the no moral values.



Yeah, I thought so.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: woodstock
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Dennis Kucinich is our leader !!!!
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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One thing to keep in mind is quite a few people might be fairly liberal, but consider themselves moderate. My dad for example, would generally consider himself a moderate if you were to ask him, but his views on the issues are almost uniformly liberal outside of perhaps the death penalty He is pro-choice, he is pro-gay marriage, very pro separation of Church and State, very pro gun-control, in favor of increasing taxes on those making over $250,000, in favor of the public option, against the Supreme Court ruling on Corporate $$ for campaigns. I think many people generally fit this scenario in which if you examine their views on the issues it might not reflect on how they would describe themselves.
and the otherway around. Some consider themselves liberals or whatever, but when you start asking thier views it becomes apparent they are not the way they see themselves. Often it is a one or two issue thing...I know a few people (especially women) who think of themselves as liberals, but their only liberal views have to do with women's issues. The other side of the coin, like your father, my dad (no longer alive) thought of himself as a conservative and stron Republican but he was in pro choice even before it was legal, believed in legalizing almost all drugs, and voted for Ross Perot because he didn't like Bush number 1. Actually he was a libertarian in my book. He was fiscally conservative and very pro military; of course he was a retired Navy Capt..maybe that was why..LOl

Nita
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