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Old 05-23-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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There is a world of difference between republican conservatives and democrat conservatives.

No, Burns was NOT expected to win.

Tell me, out of this:



Where is the spin?

ALL facts with statistics to back it up.
registration doesn't mean everything. Again look at voting registration in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. the Dems held the seat for so long because of a well entrenched incumbent. No longer having an Incumbent in the seat opens things up quite a bit. While Bush didn't win it, he only lost it by two points in 04, Obama lost it and he won nationally by a much larger margin than Bush did in 04. Republicans were expecting to win this seat. Listen to their own comments on it.
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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registration doesn't mean everything. Again look at voting registration in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kentucky, etc. the Dems held the seat for so long because of a well entrenched incumbent. No longer having an Incumbent in the seat opens things up quite a bit. While Bush didn't win it, he only lost it by two points in 04, Obama lost it and he won nationally by a much larger margin than Bush did in 04. Republicans were expecting to win this seat. Listen to their own comments on it.
Except for the FACT that LA, OK and KY are RED states.

There is a difference between those states and PA, a true blue state for almost 20 years.
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:45 PM
 
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This is good.

My fellow democrats, holding Murtha's seat means ........ nothing.

A Single Democratic Victory In A Single Pennsylvania Race Doesn’t Change Anything | The New Republic

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The reason: its party registration is so overwhelmingly Democratic that even when lots of conservative Democrats peel off, a majority or near-majority remains for the party’s nominee
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Except for the FACT that LA, OK and KY are RED states.

There is a difference between those states and PA, a true blue state for almost 20 years.

The Democrats have large registration advantages in those states just like they have a large registration advantage in PA-12. Yes PA is a blue state, but the reason its Democratic is not rural Appalachia portions of the state (which is what most of this district is) PA is blue because of Philly, its suburbs and Pittsburgh.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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What Pennsylvania 12 Says -- Or Doesn't -- About November : NPR

It's an interesting article. Here is a snippet I felt very apropos to this thread:

If Republicans think the way to a majority in November is by linking every Democratic candidate to President Obama and Nancy Pelosi — as Burns tried to do with Critz — then they are very much mistaken.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What Pennsylvania 12 Says -- Or Doesn't -- About November : NPR

It's an interesting article. Here is a snippet I felt very apropos to this thread:

If Republicans think the way to a majority in November is by linking every Democratic candidate to President Obama and Nancy Pelosi — as Burns tried to do with Critz — then they are very much mistaken.
I thought this one was very apropos - by a democrat no less.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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I thought this one was very apropos - by a democrat no less.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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???
This - forgot link.

A Single Democratic Victory In A Single Pennsylvania Race Doesn’t Change Anything | The New Republic
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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They're right. It doesn't change anything. It was no referendum on Obama, or anyone else. Pennsylvania is pretty stuck in its ways.
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