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Old 05-19-2010, 08:19 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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You do realize that Critz was very close with Murtha and an aide to him right??

Yes I sure do but the guy did not believe in what Murtha believed in at all.

Murtha was for everything Critz is not for. Critz for not for HC, not for more government etc etc. He is not a true liberal.

Just because he drew a paycheck under Murtha does not mean he followed the beliefs of his boss.

He even campaign in a nice way that he was nothing like Murtha!!
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hey I thought the Republicans were going to sweep everything?

How come they can't even take a district that went to McCain last election and after they dumped a million bucks into Tim Burns' campaign?
Gosh, do I have to keep repeating myself and debunking the spin from the Left?

A conservative democrat running in a district where the democrats hold a 2-1 advantage in voter registration, where he runs AGAINST obamacare, cap&tax, pro-gun and runs away from any contact with obama, where the seat has been held by a democrat for the last 32 years, where the district is heavily union democrat, where Critz benefited from the hotly contested Senate Dem primary, where 62% of the voters that turned out were democrats, 34% republican...why does the left think a republican should have won?

This is interesting;

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45,777 people voted in the Republican primary in PA-12, choosing Burns to run again in November. And 82,695 people voted in the Democratic primary, choosing Mark Critz. But in the special, Critz won 71,684 votes and Burns won 59,476 votes. Burns won, and Critz lost, around 17 percent of Democratic votes.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Yes I sure do but the guy did not believe in what Murtha believed in at all.

Murtha was for everything Critz is not for. Critz for not for HC, not for more government etc etc. He is not a true liberal.

Just because he drew a paycheck under Murtha does not mean he followed the beliefs of his boss.

He even campaign in a nice way that he was nothing like Murtha!!
Murtha was also conservative on social issues.

Critz favors closing tax loopholes for companies that take overseas, he is against tax cuts for the wealthy. Not exactly conservative ideas.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Which paper? The Post-Gazette or the Tribune? The Trib is very conservative (you'd like it since I believe they carry Malkin and Coulter ) and even though I don't remember the Post-Gazette as being liberal, I think it's more liberal than the Trib.

Actually, it's not to surprising that a conservative Dem was picked in Johnstown.... I think that reflects the folks there. Blue collar and yet social conservatives... Unless they've changed a lot over the last 30 years.
I doubt it. (I'm from the Pgh area, too.)

Actually, regarding health care, Critz says he does not support Obamacare, but he was not in favor of repealing it, paraphrasing. I posted a link on some other forum.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Default House Republicans grumbling over loss in PA special election..

This loss in the battle to take over Murtha's seat was a real punch in the gut to Republicans. They thought they had this seat and where all set to start celebrating and calling it a referendum on Obama's leadership......then reality hit.

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Two Republican sources at Wednesday’s House GOP Conference meeting tell CNN that there was a lot of grumbling about the party’s loss in a special election Tuesday for the vacant House seat in Pennsylvania’s 12th congressional district. Democratic candidate Mark Critz topped Republican Tim Burns by double digits in the battle to succeed the late Democratic Rep. Jack Murtha. “People should be grumbling – members sure were,” said one of the sources.
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - House Republicans grumbling over loss in PA special election « - Blogs from CNN.com
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:07 AM
 
Location: North America
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This loss in the battle to take over Murtha's seat was a real punch in the gut to Republicans. They thought they had this seat and where all set to start celebrating and calling it a referendum on Obama's leadership......then reality hit.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - House Republicans grumbling over loss in PA special election « - Blogs from CNN.com

The thing is, anti-incumbent may not translate into anti (D).
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The thing is, anti-incumbent may not translate into anti (D).
Agree. Now, we have the repubs blaming the loss in Murtha's district on faulty polling. Of course, it's not the fact that the focused on bashing President Obama and Speaker Pelosi instead of the issues like unemployment. The repubs need to lower their expectations. LOL.
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Rep. Darrell Issa of California said that faulty NRCC polling raised Republicans' expectations in the Pennsylvania race.
"The polling is going to have to be retooled," he said. "This was a district we thought we would lose until the polling told us we might not, and that changed expectations."

Print Story: Democrats Breathing Easier Now - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/politics3667093/print;_ylt=Aqq1Odl6wnvDVQuCsJe7fbf5R9AF;_ylu=X3oDM TBvajZzaTFyBHBvcwMxNQRzZWMDdG9wBHNsawNwcmludA-- - broken link)
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:09 AM
 
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Gosh, do I have to keep repeating myself and debunking the spin from the Left?

A conservative democrat running in a district where the democrats hold a 2-1 advantage in voter registration, where he runs AGAINST obamacare, cap&tax, pro-gun and runs away from any contact with obama, where the seat has been held by a democrat for the last 32 years, where the district is heavily union democrat, where Critz benefited from the hotly contested Senate Dem primary, where 62% of the voters that turned out were democrats, 34% republican...why does the left think a republican should have won?

This is interesting;
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45,777 people voted in the Republican primary in PA-12, choosing Burns to run again in November. And 82,695 people voted in the Democratic primary, choosing Mark Critz. But in the special, Critz won 71,684 votes and Burns won 59,476 votes. Burns won, and Critz lost, around 17 percent of Democratic votes.
It was just that easy to explain!
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Since, basically, the only Moderates running anywhere in this country, are Democrats, I don't think Nov is going to be the "hoped" for doom of Dems in Congress.
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