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Old 01-09-2014, 02:27 AM
 
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Do these people have any anything to offer Sweden? They seem impoverished and are just going to shoot out kids left and right to abuse the welfare system.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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That wasn't what many people had in their mind when they helped Jews escaping from the Nazis. Many people still offered all the help they could. Africa is a dump. Horrible place. Lawless. People are exploited, killed, persecuted etc. Out of all the countries, it's Israel should be the one welcoming them with open arms. Because they have been there. How about this: educate them, give them jobs. It's a win-win situation for both sides.
Who helped? Less than 200,000 Jews survived the Nazis and many were placed in DP camps. The majority of Jews that came to Israel post WW2 came from Arab countries and not Europe (nearly 10:1).

Africa is Africa. A continent with numerous countries. They had numerous countries to choose from yet they had no problem passing through Egypt and mixing in with the Ethiopians of Israel. As I stated in the a previous post, the UN has plenty of funds to send humanitarian aid too numerous other countries but sends zero to Israel unless its only for Palestinians. Israel runs on a balanced budget as they don't want to be in debt to any other country. The only way to fund the coverage of these people is to raise personal income taxes. The Israeli gov't already has a large population of people who are uneducated and drain the welfare bank accts. They are the Haredi. Then they have the settlers who come from Ultra Orthodox Jewish areas around the world straight onto welfare. They have enough problems educating these people since they are missing all the basics.

And where is the rest of the world with open arms? What are they doing? Just look at the Syrians. They are living in UN supplied tents and living off of UN supplied food.

The Israelis could send them out the same way they got in; Through Egypt. Oh wait, Egypt doesn't have a illegal problem as they SHOOT them on sight.

And here we have a headline about Sweden accepting dozens. Of course you have to dig down to find out it's only around four dozen. When you find a EU country taking a 1000+ from ANY African country, then it will be news. Past that is BS PR.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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Who helped? Less than 200,000 Jews survived the Nazis and many were placed in DP camps. The majority of Jews that came to Israel post WW2 came from Arab countries and not Europe (nearly 10:1).

Africa is Africa. A continent with numerous countries. They had numerous countries to choose from yet they had no problem passing through Egypt and mixing in with the Ethiopians of Israel. As I stated in the a previous post, the UN has plenty of funds to send humanitarian aid too numerous other countries but sends zero to Israel unless its only for Palestinians. Israel runs on a balanced budget as they don't want to be in debt to any other country. The only way to fund the coverage of these people is to raise personal income taxes. The Israeli gov't already has a large population of people who are uneducated and drain the welfare bank accts. They are the Haredi. Then they have the settlers who come from Ultra Orthodox Jewish areas around the world straight onto welfare. They have enough problems educating these people since they are missing all the basics.

And where is the rest of the world with open arms? What are they doing? Just look at the Syrians. They are living in UN supplied tents and living off of UN supplied food.

The Israelis could send them out the same way they got in; Through Egypt. Oh wait, Egypt doesn't have a illegal problem as they SHOOT them on sight.

And here we have a headline about Sweden accepting dozens. Of course you have to dig down to find out it's only around four dozen. When you find a EU country taking a 1000+ from ANY African country, then it will be news. Past that is BS PR.
Thanks for the interesting post. I think there is going to come a point where countries just can't keep accepting refugees. Most people in countries that have a lot of immigration are reaching a point where they have lost their tolerance. There needs to be some concerted effort made to look at the refugee problem and maybe help countries look after their own populations.

Most refugees all head for the wealthier countries and bypass countries where their is no danger. A lot of the Asian and African countries are not doing anything to help their populations and are quite happy to let people pass through their areas to go to Europe, Australia etc. Refugees are a real hot potato here in Australia.

I know there are problem areas but the West can't keep accepting the world's refugees. There are millions of them and more needs to be done to really look at this problem instead of people getting on boats or other means to come to western countries. As I've said in some previous posts there are too many people in the world. Not all areas are going to be able to sustain these bigger populations especially with the way the climate is going. Governments need to start thinking about this problem and start developing some strategies for the future.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Who helped?
Sweden did!

The Rescue of Danish Jews

It has a long and honorable history of welcoming victims of oppression and genocide.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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It doesn't take much for people to start criticizing Israel, does it?
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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They will eventually start going south. The southern part of Africa is booming.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:04 PM
 
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They will eventually start going south. The southern part of Africa is booming.
Only Botswana. Look at Zimbabwe. And South Africa still has a long way to go, too.
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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They will eventually start going south. The southern part of Africa is booming.
They are travelling mostly by sea to a drop off location somewhere in Egypt. Did you really think they walked 1800 miles through mostly desert? It's much easier to ride in a ship then attempt to walk south through multiple regimes.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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Only Botswana. Look at Zimbabwe. And South Africa still has a long way to go, too.
South Africa has lots of migrants from elsewhere in Africa -- even as far north as Nigeria.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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They will eventually start going south. The southern part of Africa is booming.
South Africa is swamped by millions of immigrants from other parts of Africa. In addition a large amount are illegal immigrants and there are even Somolians there.
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