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Obviously not good jobs if they are living in little shacks.
What is a "good job?"
Try to understand that when the ruling class is utterly corrupt, everything will be about squeezing the profits as much as possible. And the way you can squeeze the profits in the most effective way, is to force people to pay through the nose for the roof over their heads, utilities and food. So the price tag for an apartment is out of reach for the most of working Russians. And if they were lucky enough to privatize a little shack where they used to live back in Soviet times, then that's where they keep on living, even if they are fully employed. If they were lucky enough to privatize a decent apartment, than they pay through the nose for utilities. And if they don't pay for utilities, than they lose their "private property." That's how it works over there.
Of course people in Russia don't have the same opportunities as people in the US. Back in the nineties the US government made sure its stays this way. It helped to create the class of "new capitalists" hoping it will be obedient to the US interests. So this class expropriated all the country riches, leaving everyone else to scramble, yet the US got more than they've bargained for. This class of "new capitalists" in Russia has got bigger geopolitical appetites than the US expected, and with the size of such country as Russia and all her resources they can and they will be pushing for more and more gains. I don't see any reasons for "haha" in the nearest future.
the US has a chronic problem with trying to manipulate situations abroad, and finding itself out-manoevered in the end. It's embarrassing.
Obviously not good jobs if they are living in little shacks. .
I only saw the one photo posted, didn't read the article. It's not clearly visible in the photo, but the main house in that little compound (the "shacks" are actually outbuildings in someone's yard) is a typical, spacious, light, high-ceilinged 2-to-3-room house (not counting large kitchen) like you find on the outskirts of many towns and in the countryside. They're actually pretty nice places, other than the fact that they don't have indoor bathrooms. But neither do some vacation homes and country homes in Sweden and Switzerland, two of the highest standards of living in the world.
I only saw the one photo posted, didn't read the article. It's not clearly visible in the photo, but the main house in that little compound (the "shacks" are actually outbuildings in someone's yard) is a typical, spacious, light, high-ceilinged 2-to-3-room house (not counting large kitchen) like you find on the outskirts of many towns and in the countryside. They're actually pretty nice places, other than the fact that they don't have indoor bathrooms. But neither do some vacation homes and country homes in Sweden and Switzerland, two of the highest standards of living in the world.
Ruth, SOME appartments in Russia is what you describe, but these particular people in that video live in former Army barracks that were converted to the apartments back in the sixties.
The living conditions in Russia differ a great deal - it was the same case in the USSR. So it was kind of a lottery who privatized what kind of a living space inherited from Soviet times.
What is a "good job?"
Try to understand that when the ruling class is utterly corrupt, everything will be about squeezing the profits as much as possible. And the way you can squeeze the profits in the most effective way, is to force people to pay through the nose for the roof over their heads, utilities and food. So the price tag for an apartment is out of reach for the most of working Russians. And if they were lucky enough to privatize a little shack where they used to live back in Soviet times, then that's where they keep on living, even if they are fully employed. If they were lucky enough to privatize a decent apartment, than they pay through the nose for utilities. And if they don't pay for utilities, than they lose their "private property." That's how it works over there.
Ok so how are the Middle class Russians getting so lucky?
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Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth
the US has a chronic problem with trying to manipulate situations abroad, and finding itself out-manoevered in the end. It's embarrassing.
Lol so random.
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Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth
I only saw the one photo posted, didn't read the article. It's not clearly visible in the photo, but the main house in that little compound (the "shacks" are actually outbuildings in someone's yard) is a typical, spacious, light, high-ceilinged 2-to-3-room house (not counting large kitchen) like you find on the outskirts of many towns and in the countryside. They're actually pretty nice places, other than the fact that they don't have indoor bathrooms. But neither do some vacation homes and country homes in Sweden and Switzerland, two of the highest standards of living in the world.
Oh so this is just one of those fear mongering articles? wouldnt surprise me... some authors hate to see people happy and try to over exaggerate crap.
Ok so how are the Middle class Russians getting so lucky?
The "middle class" in Russia is miniscule by Western standards.
Truth to be told, for the most part Russians are divided into rich and poor, that's why when they are trying to come up with idea of a "middle class" they include there those who make $20,000 a year and those who make $100,000 alike.
Ruth, SOME appartments in Russia is what you describe, but these particular people in that video live in former Army barracks that were converted to the apartments back in the sixties.
The living conditions in Russia differ a great deal - it was the same case in the USSR. So it was kind of a lottery who privatized what kind of a living space inherited from Soviet times.
Oh, I didn't open the link. I was only explaining the scene to the left in the photo posted in the OP.
Yes, conditions vary tremendously. i was describing more like the typical one-story dacha or village house. You should have seen the housing I stayed in off the lower Kolyma River, above the arctic circle. Wooden barracks describes it. Terrible insulation. Shocking, considering the environment. But I think those were built back when several villages were "consolidated", back in the 60's, so the regime just threw together some housing for the people coming from outlying villages, and that's all there's been ever since.
Oh, I didn't open the link. I was only explaining the scene to the left in the photo posted in the OP.
Yes, conditions vary tremendously. i was describing more like the typical one-story dacha or village house. You should have seen the housing I stayed in off the lower Kolyma River, above the arctic circle. Wooden barracks describes it. Terrible insulation. Shocking, considering the environment. But I think those were built back when several villages were "consolidated", back in the 60's, so the regime just threw together some housing for the people coming from outlying villages, and that's all there's been ever since.
The pic in the article and the video are about the same house/people.
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