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Old 02-24-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 2/24/14: Leave Ukraine Alone!

Ron Paul: U.S. should let Ukraine solve its own problems - Washington Times
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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I love Ron Paul & I concur
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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I agree.

However western countries are more concerned about Ukraine leaning toward Russia/China and therefore their influcence diminishing than about the freedom and democracy of Ukrainian, which is why they keep interfering other countries' business pretending it is out of concern for the "people".
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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I agree.

However western countries are more concerned about Ukraine leaning toward Russia/China and therefore their influcence diminishing than about the freedom and democracy of Ukrainian, which is why they keep interfering other countries' business pretending it is out of concern for the "people".
Ukraine has borders with the EU. If a civil war had to start there Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary would be affected. A huge part of the Russian Gas come to the EU from Ukraine. And protestations started when the now former Ukrainian gov said they didn't want to go further with the EU.
So of course the European Union feel concerned. Since the Kosovo they understood their mistakes.
I don't think anyone want the Ukraine to stop its relations with Russia. We just wish Ukrainian could do their own choices and not being lead by a Russian puppet. Protests started in their own, the West is not involved. Don't forget the Orange Revolution. Ukraine is a divided country.
And how China is involved in this ?

edit. Or maybe by West you mean the US.. Because Poland/France/Germany helped a lot to stop the violence in Kiev. We'll see if things remain peaceful, but it's taking a good path.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Ukraine has borders with the EU. If a civil war had to start there Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary would be affected. A huge part of the Russian Gas come to the EU from Ukraine. And protestations started when the now former Ukrainian gov said they didn't want to go further with the EU.
So of course the European Union feel concerned. Since the Kosovo they understood their mistakes.
I don't think anyone want the Ukraine to stop its relations with Russia. We just wish Ukrainian could do their own choices and not being lead by a Russian puppet. Protests started in their own, the West is not involved. Don't forget the Orange Revolution. Ukraine is a divided country.
And how China is involved in this ?

edit. Or maybe by West you mean the US.. Because Poland/France/Germany helped a lot to stop the violence in Kiev. We'll see if things remain peaceful, but it's taking a good path.
Hello.
Of course the West IS involved, as much as Russia with its "puppet."
You should be aware how it works: the leaders of the opposite movements keep in mind whose help they are relying on, and people on the streets DO have leaders.
( In one of the interviews with Oleg Tzarev that I've posted here earlier in Russian ( he is a deputy from Eastern Ukraine) he said very clearly, complaining; "We see Americans coming here, we see Europeans, but we don't see Russians.") Of course the West is involved not less than Russia.
It's a proxy war in Ukraine - plain and simple.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Sometimes Ron likes to get in drag and post. Here he is again with an alternate version of the same message. (Sound quality is not great, so when you think he's saying 'Britney' or 'Brittany', he's really saying 'Ukraine').


LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! - YouTube
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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It's a proxy war in Ukraine - plain and simple.


Oh dear. Priceless....
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Oh dear. Priceless....
I'm glad you liked it.
( And hopefully it won't go to a state of REAL of war.)


Russia flexes military muscle as tensions rise in Ukraine's Crimea - CNN.com
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