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Old 03-18-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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We always celebrated St. Patricks Day where I'm from. We've had a parade for as long as I can remember so I don't know why people think it's a recent thing. I'm 29 and remember them when I was in primary school.
Because it's a bank holiday most people will go to pubs.

But let's take this time to clear up some things.
Most importantly - It is never to be called Patty's Day. Never, ever, ever. If you want to shorten it then it's Paddy's Day. It's very ignorant to just change another countries holiday. Would you tell Mexicans they're now celebrating Seis de Mayo?

We do not have green beer in Ireland, unless that's changed in the 4 years I've been gone.

We don't eat corned beef and cabbage. Corned beef is a deli meat (meat is a loose word) to us. We have bacon and cabbage and the cabbage is cooked completely different to how you cook it in America.

Never order an Irish car bomb in Ireland. I don't know how that name became popular for a drink but it's a very sensitive topic in Ireland. Completely disrespectful. It'd be like hearing we have a drink in Ireland called 'Twin Towers plane' or something. (I'm not good at making up drink names!)

Finally, we know American's like to hold onto their heritage, but don't call yourself Irish and then be ignorant on a lot of facts. You're American with Irish ancestry. Not the same. There's no shame in just calling yourself American!
Just the other day I designed a poster (drink Menu) for a very popular Irish pub here near Washington. One of the drinks listed was a Car Bomb. I asked my sales rep "what kind of drink is that" and was slightly disturbed by it. By the way, he had no answer to what a car bomb is. So I'm assuming its related to the IRA planting bombs in cars?
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Does it really affect you that he consider himself Irish?
It's silly to claim to be something you're not. Trust me, if you've spent any amount of time in Ireland, you'd understand that American- Irish and Irish are two completely different cultures. Too many American-Irish like to hold onto some false version of an Ireland that doesn't actually exist---just like another poster said---stereotypes.
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:45 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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And I really have no idea why. America is not Ireland.
It's become more of an American holiday than an Irish one in some ways.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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We always celebrated St. Patricks Day where I'm from. We've had a parade for as long as I can remember so I don't know why people think it's a recent thing. I'm 29 and remember them when I was in primary school.
Because it's a bank holiday most people will go to pubs.

But let's take this time to clear up some things.
Most importantly - It is never to be called Patty's Day. Never, ever, ever. If you want to shorten it then it's Paddy's Day. It's very ignorant to just change another countries holiday. Would you tell Mexicans they're now celebrating Seis de Mayo?

We do not have green beer in Ireland, unless that's changed in the 4 years I've been gone.

We don't eat corned beef and cabbage. Corned beef is a deli meat (meat is a loose word) to us. We have bacon and cabbage and the cabbage is cooked completely different to how you cook it in America.

Never order an Irish car bomb in Ireland. I don't know how that name became popular for a drink but it's a very sensitive topic in Ireland. Completely disrespectful. It'd be like hearing we have a drink in Ireland called 'Twin Towers plane' or something. (I'm not good at making up drink names!)

Finally, we know American's like to hold onto their heritage, but don't call yourself Irish and then be ignorant on a lot of facts. You're American with Irish ancestry. Not the same. There's no shame in just calling yourself American!
Excellent post! My Dad is the manager of an "Irish Center" here in Philly and will ask everytime what is in a "carbomb" when someone orders it. I never use that term.

I do understand the frustration with so many Americans claiming to be "Irish" but many of us do have strong connections with Ireland. I'm 27 and all of my Granparents emigrated from Ireland and I am in the process of applying for dual citizenship but evenstill I'm not nearly as loud or proud about my heritage as others in The US-and I even play the Irish fiddle.
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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It does actually, because people like this usually have no clue about Ireland and spread false stereotypes and traditions.
Why do you say I have no clue about Ireland? Furthermore, which false stereotypes and traditions have I spread?
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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It is gaining some popularity but is not yet a major event.
How ironic the Irish are emulating how the Americans celebrate their own national holiday.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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St. Patrick, as I sure most of you all know, was a major historical figure in Ireland. He is venerated highly and I am not sure drinking and carrying on has much to do with the rather solemn nature of the historical figure.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
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It's silly to claim to be something you're not. Trust me, if you've spent any amount of time in Ireland, you'd understand that American- Irish and Irish are two completely different cultures. Too many American-Irish like to hold onto some false version of an Ireland that doesn't actually exist---just like another poster said---stereotypes.
You know, it always amazes me how some people get offended by how others tag/identify themselves. I mean, will I'll be really affected it if an American of Mexican descendent calls himself Mexican? Will it change how other people sees me? Will I had to pay some kind of high price in my life for his calling himself Mexican?
Stereotypes have always existed, and they ain't gonna disappear regardless of if an American citizen calls himself Irish or not.

Greetings.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:51 PM
 
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There are more Americans of Irish decent than that of all current citizens of Ireland.
Most of them are of partial Irish descent and have other ancestries as well. I think the Irish ancestry in the US is very overstated as a lot are of Scot-Irish descent.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:32 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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There are more Americans of Irish decent than that of all current citizens of Ireland.
So what lol?
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