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Old 09-29-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Turtles can't survive in temperate climates. In Europe, they only live around the Mediterranean. Sometimes a turtle is found in the wild, but they never get old or create offspring in northern Europe, despite the Gulfstream.

In fact, only four kinds of lizards and three species of snakes (viper, grass snake and smooth snake) are able to survive here. Most are threatened too.
This totally can't be true. I live in a city that hits -30 C every winter and I've seen turtles around ponds and rivers many many times.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Turtles can't survive in temperate climates. In Europe, they only live around the Mediterranean. Sometimes a turtle is found in the wild, but they never get old or create offspring in northern Europe, despite the Gulfstream.

In fact, only four kinds of lizards and three species of snakes (viper, grass snake and smooth snake) are able to survive here. Most are threatened too.
Well, I don't think the turtles that live in Eastern USA and Canada got the memo because almost all of Canada's provinces and every American state has turtles and like I said they hibernate during the winter. Sea turtles even range into the cold waters of the pacific along Canada's west coast and the Leatherback turtle occurs all the way to Alaska. How are you defining temperate? Saying something with conviction doesn't make you right. Do some research.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I hate these things with a burning passion. They have out-competed the native red squirrel, making any sighting a novelty. They are considered pests, and actually it's illegal to release one if it is trapped - instead you should destroy it (I don't think people do this though - I certainly wouldn't).
In California, the Eastern Gray and the Fox Squirrel which was also introduced have out competed our native Western Gray Squirrel which is shy like the European Red Squirrel and it has also retreated to coniferous forest where Eastern Grays won't live.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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At least debating turtle and chipmunk range is better than fighting about racial categories or who has more blonds. LOL.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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At least debating turtle and chipmunk range is better than fighting about racial categories or who has more blonds. LOL.
Hahaha. I'm completely surprised this reached page 3.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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At least debating turtle and chipmunk range is better than fighting about racial categories or who has more blonds. LOL.
^^^Truth!
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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Not Chipmunks but I took this pic at work last week.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Not Chipmunks but I took this pic at work last week.
European Red Squirrels.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:29 AM
 
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As Saxony would say "European Red Squirrels are obviously Celtic"...(joking).

There are turtles here, but they are being replaced by the Florida turtles. Aboriginal turtles are protected and are being reinplanted. Any Sunday driver that picks one is fined 5-to 10.000€.

The big problem now are Chinese Vipers, that are exterminating bees, a big industry.

Zebra mussel, a plague.

The apple snail, etc, etc.

Parrots...now there are 30 types of parrots flying around.

The poor Spanish sparrow that colonized America is scarce now, they are protected.

Mexican cactus grow very well here, now they are considered local and their fruit is appreciated.

I remember seeing in Georgia a plant named Kudzu, sort of fast growth ivy....quite strange that the plague has not arrived.
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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As Saxony would say "European Red Squirrels are obviously Celtic"...(joking).

There are turtles here, but they are being replaced by the Florida turtles. Aboriginal turtles are protected and are being reinplanted. Any Sunday driver that picks one is fined 5-to 10.000€.

The big problem now are Chinese Vipers, that are exterminating bees, a big industry.

Zebra mussel, a plague.

The apple snail, etc, etc.

Parrots...now there are 30 types of parrots flying around.

The poor Spanish sparrow that colonized America is scarce now, they are protected.

Mexican cactus grow very well here, now they are considered local and their fruit is appreciated.

I remember seeing in Georgia a plant named Kudzu, sort of fast growth ivy....quite strange that the plague has not arrived.
The Spanish Sparrow never colonized America. The House Sparrow was introduced here and although in decline as well, is still one of our most common birds.

Also in Europe, you have to deal with American Bullfrogs just as we in California do and they are having the same impact in both paces. They're not native to either region.
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