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The nobility has no priviledges here, and most are like everybody else. Some have lost their ancient wealth and you don't know they're noble until you look at their ID.
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Originally Posted by viribusunitis
I forgot to add that nobility doesn't have any privileges here either. They aren't even allowed to use "von", "zu" or "von und zu" either. Unlike in Germany.
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Originally Posted by BigSwede
A baron has never ruled anything but his own estate.
There´s a difference between royalty and nobility.
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Originally Posted by NewTexico76
Nobility in most European countries today is not different from carrying a name like Vanderbilt or Rockefeller, or being one of the Kennedys in the United States. Most countries have abolished formal political roles for nobility.
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Originally Posted by Miserere
Nobilities only have some very scant privileges in European Monarchies, but privileges are just honorary.
Indeed, in France a title carries no legal weight nor influence. They're effectively familial names, like a surname and as such many Europeans really don't give them any thought.
Just about every royal family in Europe has its roots in what is now Germany.
Some members of these families seem to be famous for being married and divorced a lot.
It's the same in Russia, to some extent (Catharine the Great). Though the initial lineage of Tsars were descendants of the Swedish invaders. Some Germans still managed to get mixed in there, lol.
The pretender to the french throne has a drop of swedish blood.
They all tend to marry one another, so there are drops of all sorts.
Think of how many became kings and queens who didn't grow up speaking the native language!
Oh, the nobility has a couple of priviledges in Finland: they can visit the House of Nobility (or Knights) and have parties among themselves where they plot evil plans against the common people, and their names are under special protection. Which means that if you marry a "von Ariete", you don't get his/her name. You can only get a noble name by birth.
This is the heir to the French throne (left). He descends in patrilineal line (i.e. continuous father to son descent) from kings Louis-Philippe, Henri IV, St Louis, Philip Augustus, Hugh Capet, and Robert the Strong (who died in 866 fighting the Vikings in Western France). This boy has the oldest traceable genealogy in Europe.
Here with his father, who is also heir to the French throne:
I am not a fan of monarchy and nobility. The current Norwegian royal famliy is only 110 years old. The first king and queen were both foreigners. What is the point of that?
Most noble familes died out 4-500 years ago. All noble privileges (like fancy titles) were abolished nearly 200 years ago.
4-500 years ago? Are you sure about that?
There were plenty European noblemen and women during the nineteenth century, they died out around the twentieth century.
I know a Frenchman who is descended from a noble family and his title still remains to be "Vicomte".
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