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Old 12-06-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Spain isn't orthodox last time I checked

That's why Huntington's map depicted it in blue.

 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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That's why Huntington's map depicted it in blue.
yet you call me orthodox, when I'm Spanish
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:23 PM
 
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Are you insulted, because your culture is not western, but orthodox?

Did you read the above mentioned western criterias in the first post? Orthodox countries can't pass them, because they are a very different civilization. That's why professor Samuel Huntington called the Orthodox as Eurasian civilization.
Hmm, many consider Greece to be the cradle of Western civilization and yet it is an Orthodox country. Also, don't forget that eastern orthodoxy was later introduced in the Asian parts of Russia. But above all, Christianity, Judaism and Islam were all born in the Middle-East.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Orthodox culture = Eurasian culture.
1. In your first post says a lot of nonsense.
2. What is the "Eurasian culture"?
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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Are you insulted, because your culture is not western, but orthodox?

Did you read the above mentioned western criterias in the first post? Orthodox countries can't pass them, because they are a very different civilization. That's why professor Samuel Huntington called the Orthodox as Eurasian civilization.
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In the 1970s, Huntington applied his theoretical insights as an advisor to governments, both democratic and dictatorial. In 1972, he met with Medici government representatives in Brazil; a year later he published the report "Approaches to Political Decompression", warning against the risks of a too-rapid political liberalization, proposing graduated liberalization, and a strong party state modeled upon the image of the Mexican Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI). After a prolonged transition, Brazil became democratic in 1985.

In the 1980s, he became a valued adviser to the South African regime, which used his ideas on political order to craft its "total strategy" to reform apartheid and suppress growing resistance. He assured South Africa's rulers that increasing the repressive power of the state (which at that time included police violence, detention without trial, and torture) can be necessary to effect reform. The reform process, he told his South African audience, often requires "duplicity, deceit, faulty assumptions and purposeful blindness." He thus gave the imprimatur of American social science to his hosts' project of "reforming" apartheid rather than eliminating it.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Very interesting, when the Hungarians are just eastern European rabble trying to glorify their past. Fidesz and Jobbik are denominations of western democracy. Be proud of what you are, but this nationalism crap is just over the top.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Romania
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Are you insulted, because your culture is not western, but orthodox?

Did you read the above mentioned western criterias in the first post? Orthodox countries can't pass them, because they are a very different civilization. That's why professor Samuel Huntington called the Orthodox as Eurasian civilization.
That's a very pathetical wishful thinking. You wish your nation were Orthodox and try to lie yourself the opposite.

Christianity is an Asian religion, it was born in Israel and mostly in Turkey, where have been fabricated much of the texts of the gospels and Western civilisation is no less "Asian" than the civilisation of Orthodox countries, but Orthodox countries can boast with a much older and original tradition.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Hmm, many consider Greece to be the cradle of Western civilization and yet it is an Orthodox country. Also, don't forget that eastern orthodoxy was later introduced in the Asian parts of Russia. But above all, Christianity, Judaism and Islam were all born in the Middle-East.

Sorry, but Greece is not part of the West since the fall of Western Roman Empire. After Justinian the great, Byzantine culture a architecture , fine-arts architecture, administration system were seriously effected by Asian cultures like Persia and Arabs.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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That's a very pathetical wishful thinking. You wish your nation were Orthodox and try to lie yourself the opposite.

Christianity is an Asian religion, it was born in Israel and mostly in Turkey, where have been fabricated much of the texts of the gospels and Western civilisation is no less "Asian" than the civilisation of Orthodox countries, but Orthodox countries can boast with a much older and original tradition.

Not the religion and religious beliefs and dogmas were the important, but the cultural technological civilizational etc... role of the medieval church as an INSTITUTION. So the religious itself the beliefs are not interesting, the interesting was the role of the two churches as INSTITUTIONS , and their effect on civilization.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Are you insulted, because your culture is not western, but orthodox?

Did you read the above mentioned western criterias in the first post? Orthodox countries can't pass them, because they are a very different civilization. That's why professor Samuel Huntington called the Orthodox as Eurasian civilization.
Wow, you actually even referred to Huntington, after that poorly written "Clash of Civilizations"? That guy was so far off the mark, I do not know why anyone takes him seriously. He is a typical Ivy league theorist; high on academics, low on substance.

But, I do have extend great credit to him for Davos Man, he should have stuck more with geo-economics than anything else.

Your OP is pure blabber, not even worth responding to. (well, maybe when i do not feel so lazy).
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