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Old 03-23-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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they are momma's boys like italian men

you know, live with momma until he's 45.... get a serious job at 38, marry have kids at 50
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Finland
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But, in the towns and villages we didn't really see any pubs or restaurants with outside terraces like you see in the southern countries. We saw some places with terraces, but mostly empty. So we also asked some swedes about this and they explained this was not really the culture over there. Instead the outside life was much more in an "active" way, or in private setting, rather then going out and drinking on terraces.
That's odd, as at least here the terraces plop up like mushrooms come spring. I think one reason might be that they often block the sidewalk and have to have a special permit, so some maybe don't bother.

Like here. Takes half of the sidewalk, and it's just a few tables and chairs:
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Polderland
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That's odd, as at least here the terraces plop up like mushrooms come spring. I think one reason might be that they often block the sidewalk and have to have a special permit, so some maybe don't bother.

Like here. Takes half of the sidewalk, and it's just a few tables and chairs:
Indeed, the ones we did see were at places were the side walk was really wide.

Like that picture, is exactly what we also have a lot and you also see a lot in Germany. That's what we found a bit strange, like when we past Germany it was as if that suddenly stopped.

Btw, that pic looks an awful lot like Amsterdam
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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That's odd, as at least here the terraces plop up like mushrooms come spring. I think one reason might be that they often block the sidewalk and have to have a special permit, so some maybe don't bother.

Like here. Takes half of the sidewalk, and it's just a few tables and chairs:


Of course, the city asks for permits...a main source of income for many cities. The only difference in some Spanish areas is that you can have terraces all year long. Up in the rainy north of Spain, they are more like the "pub" tipe during the winter,,,while having also terraces when weather allows. In places like Paris, with a bitchy weather, they have all sorts of gimmicks to heat and cover terraces.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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they are momma's boys like italian men

you know, live with momma until he's 45.... get a serious job at 38, marry have kids at 50
Yeah, Italians and Spanish are clearly all momma's boys

The self defined worldly Irene strikes once again with stereotyping.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Lol, I know that! Guess I didn't explain myself really well

What I meant was terraces and bars. We were in Sweden last summer for three weeks and travelled by car through Germany, Denmark and entered Sweden in Malmo. From there we travelled along the coast of the Kattegat up through Varmland all the way up to Mittadalen.
On our way we met tons of Swedish people hiking, camping, rafting, swimming etc. We saw lots of people go to lakes and having BBQ's at the special made sites for that, or at home in their gardens.

But, in the towns and villages we didn't really see any pubs or restaurants with outside terraces like you see in the southern countries. We saw some places with terraces, but mostly empty. So we also asked some swedes about this and they explained this was not really the culture over there. Instead the outside life was much more in an "active" way, or in private setting, rather then going out and drinking on terraces.

But yes, the outside life seemed to go on pretty much 24/7 and we had a great time over there, and that kind of outside life was actually the reason we went there.
Just come to Finland. Terraces are everywhere
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Finland
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lifespan of spaniards, frenchs and italians is widely studied and it is a combination of:

- in general a good diet (Mediterranean-based diet, lots of fish, vegetables, fruits, pasta/bread)
- good weather
- red wine and olive oil
- good human relationships: a good supporting network, lots of friends and strong family ties.
- good urban planning in most cities and towns, and good public transportation, so people walk/cycle/take the metro (upstairs,downstairs,walk to/from the metro) much more often and less use of cars.
- a top public universal health care system. With the exception of Singapore, first 7 on that list are Mediterranean countries with more or less the same life-style and share all points explained above.

World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems | thepatientfactor.com
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
That study is not good if you want to compare different health care systems. In that study you get points if people are healthy, not for the results. In places like France and Italy they don't have so many alcoholics and maybe healthier lifestyles as you described, this has nothing to do with the quality of medical care.

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It developed a series of performance indicators to assess the overall level and distribution of health
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Because people don't go out...going to a terraced café 10 meters from your house and drinking two beers with buddies is not going out.

Different from American concept, in which going out involves dressing up, in many cases taking a car, going to "places", etc.

Terrace life is not "going out", but living.
Bingo!
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino - Italian Health
4 Andorra - France - Spain
5 Malta -
6 Singapore
7 Spain
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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There's many tourists.
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