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Old 07-09-2015, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Finland
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yes... and we won't default on it because we print money...

Greece can't print euros...
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obviously you're joking.
No, he's right. USA won't default but other bad things may happen
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Single mother on 10 euros a week in Greece - BBC News

I guess it's getting serious.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:24 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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Most of America's debt is owned by domestic institutions... Also USA prints it's own money(which may destroy dollar in the future). You can't compare Greece and USA in this matter.
All I have said and some went nuts with it, is that both countries are in debt. Both have out of control spending. One is beyond that and has nothing more to spend. The other is awaiting a calamity. Don't matter that one economy is gigantic and the other tiny. In a worldwide economy the ripple effect of a Grexit (Greece exiting the euro) will be felt on Wall St and on Main St and the word felt would be an understatement. It will just seem like the other will take longer to fail.... and that is a maybe. A dollar devaluation could be overnight and drastic.

ramifications of US debt plainly stated:

https://www.informationstation.org/k...FQGVfgodeE0IZg

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Old 07-10-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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you mean Greece actually would need to face reality, to live within means?

Right now it is paying many of its employees and offer high pension USING SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY.
I know they haven't lived within their means for years but a return to the drachma would be a disaster for their economy, the purchasing power of Greek industries would decrease and this would mean that many of them would go bankrupt, making unemployment rise even more. That's a dream scenario for extremist parties like Golden Dawn, in fact i'm sure that would cause even more political unstability
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Old 07-11-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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The banking system may collapse on Monday. It's been rumored that one of the three big banks will fail. They would possibly leave the Euro, print their own currency after a brief period, and recapitalize their banks.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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The banking system may collapse on Monday. It's been rumored that one of the three big banks will fail. They would possibly leave the Euro, print their own currency after a brief period, and recapitalize their banks.
If Greece fails and exits the euro zone, its just about a guarantee that the rest of Europe will collapse starting with the banks of Germany.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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That's one of the sticking points. Eurobank looks like it will collapse without additional funds beyond a bailout deal. They need to come up with an extra 10-25 billion euros for bank recapitalization.

Germany wants forced privatization of Greek assets for a bailout. This is what they've been after all along, to pick up Greek public resources, such as ports, utilities, islands, etc. for pennies on the dollar.

Merkel wants Greece to place assets in a trust to pay off its debts

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...-collapse.html

Last edited by lchoro; 07-12-2015 at 07:26 AM.. Reason: German grexit plan
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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new list of demands by eurogroup

True Economics: 12/7/15: Instead of Abating, Greek Crisis Just Accelerated
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Chemtrails the next step?

Jeez...
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