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Old 07-22-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Same can be said by any nation's diaspora.


Romanians too have had German kings in late 19th - first half of 20th century. It was not imposed and Romanians loved these kings. Denying one's own or nation's deficiency, looking around for scapegoats when is obvious that is an internal problem, this is what you and WWD are doing and is typical for individuals and nations with low level of education and moral standards.

No doubt, that was achieved because Greek culture's notoriety. Have the Romanians or Fins done the same things the Greeks done, they wouldn't succeed. But today, Finland and Romania proves themselves as true hard working nations. Romania, as stated before, is the fastest growing economy in Europe. Everything is moving fast here, too fast for my taste actually but that is another story.



It seems only Greece has problem with ther NWO, maybe because it exists only at the level of Greece's imagination.
You Romanians shouldn't even be talking. Your per capita is roughly 50% less than Greece's and your corruption level is ever worse(even with Greece at its lowest point). Hard to shake Ceausescu's legacy!

Talking about 3rd world countries...

 
Old 07-22-2015, 03:53 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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Again, that is history and will still be even if Greece is expelled from EU. Fact is, today Greece is a parasitic state while Finland is a productive one. Can this be explained only with the more advantageous climatic conditions of Finland? I don't think. Greece is surrounded by countries, including some at the same latitude, that are all more productive, less lazy. I think the explanation is that the Greeks became too infatuated for their history and heritage and now they consider that these (the history and heritage) absolve them from duty of working.
This person quotes paragraphs on Greek language and calls it history LOL. I suppose in Greece now they speak Mongolian. He misses the point only to forward his own Balkan parasitic propaganda which only shows hate towards Greece! He was given links by BBC and Washington Post which talked about Greeks being some of the hardest working people in Europe yet he dismisses it. Talking about somebody being extremely biased !

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Old 07-22-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Romania
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You Romanians shouldn't even be talking. Your per capita is roughly 50% less than Greece's and your corruption level is ever worse(even with Greece at its lowest point). Hard to shake Ceausescu's legacy!
Romania has double export volume compared with Greece, and that after only 24 years of capitalism. Have not communist period existed, we ofcourse were far above Greece already. If the present trend continues, the future will see Romania increasing even more and situating itself above Greece.

And corruption too is decreasing. Tens of politicians, businessmen (including the richest and most influential) etc have been put in prison or are preparing for this. The judicial system becomes more efficient every day.

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Talking about 3rd world countries...
Greece has more 3rd world appearance: lots of 3rd world immigrants, dirty capital, violent demonstrations etc. You probably haven't visited Romania if you speak such nonsense.

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He misses the point only to forward his own Balkan parasitic propaganda which only shows hate towards Greece!
What kind of Balkan parasitic stuff are talking about? What kind of parasitism accuse you Balkan peoples from? Do you know that the Greek parasitic tendencies are not something new, but has deep historical roots? We Romanians know well the parasitic character of the Greeks because we have been the main victims of these money-sucking vampires.

Lets explain: the Byzantium was known as the Mother of Corruption since middle age. Its continuator, the Ottoman empire, has an extremely corrupted administratve aparatus, in which the Greek dgnitaries were playing key roles.

Possibly, the world's worst case of corruption is the historical period of Phanariotes, Greek rulers in Moldavia and Wallachia in 18th-early 19th century. These educated and pretty nationalist Greeks were the pitiless exploiters of the Romanian people ever. They were buing the throne by bribing the sultan and other figures from Ottoman administration and in the few years of rule, they were imposing all kind of new extravagant taxes on poor Romanian peasants, in order to get rich fast. From Wikipedia:

Princes channeled their energies into spoliation, and the inhabitants, liable to increasing and diversified taxation, were in many instances reduced to destitution.

They were in many cases ruling (each of them) 1-2 years in Wallachia and then same period in Moldavia,, sucking money from both countries.

Also, during the same period, Greek monks managed to get hold on most Romanian monasteries, which become inhabited & controlled by Greeks. These monasteries were dedicated to Greek religious establishments from Greece and Near East (monasteries, bishoprics etc) and as the Romanian monasteries were owning a big part of agricultural land, around a quarter of the agricultural production of Moldavia and Wallachia was going outside for free to those Greek establishments.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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Need i say more? So much twisting of history bringing out only negative parasitic Balkan Hogwash. Probably a Catholic with a grudge. .Only shows his deep rooted hatred and now he brings in vampires which as everyone knows his Romania is vampire central and also now they are even victims . . Oh those poor Romanians. I can see those fangs now

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Old 07-22-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Except feta, what good has came from Greece since AD500?

What an idiotic article.
AD 500 doesn't seem to be a very good cut-off, especially as the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine continued for quite a while longer, and even after the fall of the empire, Greece and Greeks still played a pretty large role in Europe for various reasons. The most notable was the fall of Greek Byzantine meant a hasty and direct transfer of their scholars and works to the rest of Europe as a catalyst for the Renaissance. Greek's played a huge role in Europe for a very, very long while.

That sideswipe at Finland is really unnecessary though.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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[quote=Trigger-f;40516617]Fyi)).

For example, the 3 mil(give and take) Greeks in the US, have elected a vice president, almost a president, numerous congressmen and have excelled for years. What did the Fins or Romanians accomplish? Get your facts straight... times have changed and today's smaller countries struggle to adopt to this NWO/reality.

I am sure those 3 million greeks are very fine people. However, I would not brag about a vice president who had to resign because of tax evasion (seems to be a favorite sport of the greeks, LOL). As to the almost president, well he could not drive that tank all the way to the White House. What a clown.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Fyi)).

For example, the 3 mil(give and take) Greeks in the US, have elected a vice president, almost a president, numerous congressmen and have excelled for years. What did the Fins or Romanians accomplish? Get your facts straight... times have changed and today's smaller countries struggle to adopt to this NWO/reality.

I am sure those 3 million greeks are very fine people. However, I would not brag about a vice president who had to resign because of tax evasion (seems to be a favorite sport of the greeks, LOL). As to the almost president, well he could not drive that tank all the way to the White House. What a clown.
You are so funny (sarc). Haven't ya heard how honest Washington is or those tax evading corporations they protect?
 
Old 07-22-2015, 10:21 PM
 
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"A Europe without Finland is not that hard to imagine. A Europe without Greece would not feel like Europe at all"

Without Europe's generosity, Greece's museums are ancient history | Art and design | The Guardian

Worlds most expensive museum to keep up..
That's not the real reason they won't let Greece go. The real reason is the European Elite, who are a faction of the Global Elite, want to centralize power and control as much as possible. They don't want Greece leaving the Euro because that would set a dangerous precedent from their point of view. Anything that smacks of sovereign nation states having any degree of independence will be squelched.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 10:29 PM
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That's not the real reason they won't let Greece go. The real reason is the European Elite, who are a faction of the Global Elite, want to centralize power and control as much as possible. They don't want Greece leaving the Euro because that would set a dangerous precedent from their point of view. Anything that smacks of sovereign nation states having any degree of independence will be squelched.
Perhaps there will be the United States of Europe.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Romania
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Need i say more? So much twisting of history bringing out only negative parasitic Balkan Hogwash. Probably a Catholic with a grudge. .Only shows his deep rooted hatred and now he brings in vampires which as everyone knows his Romania is vampire central and also now they are even victims . . Oh those poor Romanians. I can see those fangs now
Anybody can read and convince himself about the historicity of the realities I described:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanar...principalities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secula...tes_in_Romania


And vampires are not something specific for Romanian folklore. Bram Stoker, "dracula"'s author, never visited Romania or studied anything about Romanian culture.
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