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Old 08-20-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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In what countries in Europe is it possible to see a doctor specialist right away without seeing the G.P.(General Practitioner) first? i.e. If I have an acne or a folliculitis problem, I'd want to see a dermatologist rather than a G.P.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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In what countries in Europe is it possible to see a doctor specialist right away without seeing the G.P.(General Practitioner) first? i.e. If I have an acne or a folliculitis problem, I'd want to see a dermatologist rather than a G.P.
You can do that in Austria and Germany. Pretty sure that that's standard in quite a few other countries. I'm not sure, though, which countries have the most efficient health care system.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:54 AM
 
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In the UK, you would have to go through your NHS GP for a referral. Even if you have private insurance, you still need a referral.

Statistics show, amazingly, that the UK's monolithic state run NHS is actually one of the most efficient health systems in the world. Apparently, it spends a smaller proportion on administration than any other. Personally, I find it very hard to believe. It is the nearest thing to a state religion we have - any time its threatened with reform, the public goes mad. In truth, its decrepit, has a funding crisis, is run for the benefit of the consultants at the cost of everyone else, (some) hospitals are like something from the Third World, and the whole thing needs scrapping and replacing by a social insurance scheme with private providers as happens in most of the developed world.

P.S. No, we don't want the American system. Most Brits seems to think there are only two options. Ours and theirs.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:01 AM
 
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http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

Here is a paper by the WHO ranking the efficiency of various health care systems.

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:15 AM
 
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http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

Here is a paper by the WHO ranking the efficiency of various health care systems.
Choose your survey and your result.

NHS is the world's best healthcare system, report says | Society | The Guardian
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Old 08-21-2015, 03:14 AM
 
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On the one side there is a study done by the WHO, on the other side there is a study by a Washington-based foundation called "Commonwealth Fund".

It's upon you to decide which organization you deem more trustworthy. Frankly, I don't care. Pissing contests like that get tiresome. Most of the countries within the Top 50 provide similar service anyway.
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:50 AM
 
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In what countries in Europe is it possible to see a doctor specialist right away without seeing the G.P.(General Practitioner) first? i.e. If I have an acne or a folliculitis problem, I'd want to see a dermatologist rather than a G.P.
In Italy you must go through your G.P. first.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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On the one side there is a study done by the WHO, on the other side there is a study by a Washington-based foundation called "Commonwealth Fund".

It's upon you to decide which organization you deem more trustworthy. Frankly, I don't care. Pissing contests like that get tiresome. Most of the countries within the Top 50 provide similar service anyway.
I'm not defending the British NHS - far from it. I would scrap the damn thing and start again. Unfortunately, it's me and about 30 others who agree!
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Old 08-24-2015, 01:00 AM
 
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In Italy you must go through your G.P. first.
What's it like in France, Netherlands, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, and Belgium then?
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Old 08-24-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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In what countries in Europe is it possible to see a doctor specialist right away without seeing the G.P.(General Practitioner) first? i.e. If I have an acne or a folliculitis problem, I'd want to see a dermatologist rather than a G.P.
You can do that in Germany...
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