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Actually the German government is not conservative, it is a coalition of conservatives and social democrats, which is one reason for all those u-turns and stupid decisions. There is a constant back and forth between those two poles in the government. It is a weak government based on bad compromises. The real opposition has been all but eliminated and silenced, not a good, democratic development...
Americans are funny people. Their own society is a total mess, with people shooting each other all the time, racism, crowds tearing cities apart, etc., and yet they think they are in any position to give advice to others
I guess you lack logical reasoning skills?
The fact that a nation has issues does not preclude residents of that nation from having opinions on varying matters.
Why should someone from the U.S. not have an opinion on the migrant crisis, because, as you say, people are shooting each other? What does one have to do with the other? Are you only allowed to process one thought at a time?
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Hadn't it been for all those "wise decisions and actions" from Washington, we would not have terrorism, Islam, and refugee problems in the first place. So be happy we don't charge you for all the damage the morons in the White House have been causing over the decades...
And this is absolutely hilarious. Yes, it's Obama's fault that ISIS is beheading Danish moms. Blame Obama for not taking action in Syria (but, of course, if the U.S. did take action in Syria, you would blame the U.S. all the same).
The United States won't be bailing Europe out for its mistakes again. Make sure you are thinking this migrant assimilation clearly. You are changing the entire demographic, culture, and religious composition of your countries in less than a year. You will be inviting people into your country who do not share our liberal Western values. Think.
The fact that a nation has issues does not preclude residents of that nation from having opinions on varying matters.
Why should someone from the U.S. not have an opinion on the migrant crisis, because, as you say, people are shooting each other? What does one have to do with the other? Are you only allowed to process one thought at a time?
And this is absolutely hilarious. Yes, it's Obama's fault that ISIS is beheading Danish moms. Blame Obama for not taking action in Syria (but, of course, if the U.S. did take action in Syria, you would blame the U.S. all the same).
No, Americans can think whatever they want. But when they make statements like in the op, it gets absurd. It's like the Pope telling people how to have sex.
I said FOR DECADES, Obama is just a minor culprit, but still more so than most people realize.
No, Americans can think whatever they want. But when they make statements like in the op, it gets absurd. It's like the Pope telling people how to have sex.
The pope does not engage in such activity, so no, that's a terrible analogy. There is nothing preventing Americans (or anyone) from having an opinion on matters of human migration.
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I said FOR DECADES, Obama is just a minor culprit, but still more so than most people realize.
The U.S. is the global hegemon so obviously will have an active role in the Middle East, and has certainly made many mistakes in the Middle East, but there is nothing about the current migration crisis that is specifically the fault of the U.S.
The migration crisis is largely the fault of Merkel, who welcomed the entire third world to Germany. The massive numbers didn't arrive until Merkel told them she welcomed the migration. The rest of Europe (maybe excluding Sweden) has generally behaved in a rational manner.
The pope does not engage in such activity, so no, that's a terrible analogy. There is nothing preventing Americans (or anyone) from having an opinion on matters of human migration.
The U.S. is the global hegemon so obviously will have an active role in the Middle East, and has certainly made many mistakes in the Middle East, but there is nothing about the current migration crisis that is specifically the fault of the U.S.
The migration crisis is largely the fault of Merkel, who welcomed the entire third world to Germany. The massive numbers didn't arrive until Merkel told them she welcomed the migration. The rest of Europe (maybe excluding Sweden) has generally behaved in a rational manner.
As I said, they can say what they want, and I will do the same about them.
It is a good analogy in that both have no clue what they are talking about and it is none of their business.
She has only made it worse, but that was a very recent mistake and has nothing to do with Syria as such, the war there and its history. The refugee mess has been in the making for years now.
The whole Middle East is unstable because of the rogue involvement of foreigners there, most of all Americans, for decades.
As I said, they can say what they want, and I will do the same about them.
It is a good analogy in that both have no clue what they are talking about and it is none of their business.
After all, we've been in the immigration business for a few centuries. Germany has no experience in this field. What was the last large group of people that the Germans successfully assimilated? The Wends during the 12th century?
One can argue that many black Americans aren't completely assimilated after several centuries; if it proves very difficult to assimilate a large group of English-speaking Christians over a span of centuries, what makes you think that Germany, a country with a much weaker cultural pull and no history of major immigration, will be able to suddenly assimilate a large group Arabic-speaking Muslims with any success, if at all?
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The refugee mess has been in the making for years now.
The whole Middle East is unstable because of the rogue involvement of foreigners there, most of all Americans, for decades.
The Middle East has been perpetually unstable since the weakening of the Ottoman Empire in the 1700's. It is intellectually lazy to depict the Middle East's constant instability as a recent phenomenon and lay it at the feet of the western world.
After all, we've been in the immigration business for a few centuries. Germany has no experience in this field. What was the last large group of people that the Germans successfully assimilated? The Wends during the 12th century?
Germany has received non-German immigration in the past, but not from such culturally incompatible nations, and not in such huge numbers.
Tons of Poles came to Germany during the Industrial Revolution. You see lots of Polish names around the Ruhr and around Berlin, and they probably aren't recent immigrants. Then after WW2 Germany obviously absorbed millions of Germans from Eastern Europe.
In the ensuing decades Germany had large migration numbers from Turkey and Italy, among others. In the last 20 years or so immigration from everywhere has grown and Germany is now second to the U.S. in immigration numbers.
Germany has received non-German immigration in the past, but not from such culturally incompatible nations, and not in such huge numbers.
Tons of Poles came to Germany during the Industrial Revolution. You see lots of Polish names around the Ruhr and around Berlin, and they probably aren't recent immigrants. Then after WW2 Germany obviously absorbed millions of Germans from Eastern Europe.
In the ensuing decades Germany had large migration numbers from Turkey and Italy, among others. In the last 20 years or so immigration from everywhere has grown and Germany is now second to the U.S.
Yes, it is impossible to take in so many migrants from a such incompatible cultures in such a short time and actually assimilate them. The bigger the numbers, the harder to assimilate, and the more different the culture, the harder to assimilate. Chances are that a parallel society will arise in Germany (if one hasn't already), and this runs a real risk of leading to future internal ethnic conflicts and social strife.
For example, the German law system isn't designed to accommodate a such a large minority of Muslims.
If it was 800,000 Frenchmen in one year it wouldn't be such a problem. But to bring in 800,000 Muslim Middle Easterners into Germany in one year? That is outside the realm of reality. Angela Merkel is laying the groundwork for a host of future problems for Germany.
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