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Old 10-12-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Not much of a diplomat, I see.
Actually, I am. But I'm also in that 74%.

I'd rather die than see the Slav tricolour flying over our House of Parliament.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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Actually, I am. But I'm also in that 74%.

I'd rather die than see the Slav tricolour flying over our House of Parliament.
Well, then if you're a diplomat, you know there is no need to get snitty with someone who is just interested in learning other people's opinions and lives in a country that is not hostile to yours.
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Old 10-12-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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What if they invade you, would you fight to defend your family and friends?
No. I don't fight for anything.
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Old 10-12-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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-No. I don't fight for anything.- He said with a lost gaze, as if thinking of all the pain that he'd been through. He then retreated in the most dramatic way possible.
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Old 10-12-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Well, then if you're a diplomat, you know there is no need to get snitty with someone who is just interested in learning other people's opinions and lives in a country that is not hostile to yours.
Oh, sorry. No no no, you misunderstood. I didn't mean any offence at all, sorry if you took my initial comment that way.

Yes, history has very much to do with our attitude of defending ourselves. Compare Finland with Ireland, Ireland lost even their language when being under the influence of a stronger nation for centuries. And later on we defended ourselves so that we remained on the right side of the Iron Curtain.

Your jokeful comment about Sweden again... I don't think anyone here would raise arms towards our best friend.
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Old 10-12-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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I wouldn't fight for my country. It's a piece of soil and I was born here by luck.
And if you didn't have bad luck, you'd have no luck at all.
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Old 10-12-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but as an American I find it hard to believe that only 44% of Americans would defend their country if it was in harms way. I call BS on this polling because that number should be at least in 60-70 percentile, especially after travelling across this country for a number of years and meeting patriotic liberal and conservative Americans that love this country.
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Old 10-12-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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I didn't read the original article, but the responses are very much context dependent.

The responses would be different if you asked people if they would fight in an offensive war, then asked if they would fight in a defensive war.

This is why leaders so often try to frame a war as defensive/preemptive self defense.

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Old 10-12-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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I'm sorry, but as an American I find it hard to believe that only 44% of Americans would defend their country if it was in harms way. I call BS on this polling because that number should be at least in 60-70 percentile, especially after travelling across this country for a number of years and meeting patriotic liberal and conservative Americans that love this country.
I agree with you, I thought the same when I read that.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but as an American I find it hard to believe that only 44% of Americans would defend their country if it was in harms way. I call BS on this polling because that number should be at least in 60-70 percentile, especially after travelling across this country for a number of years and meeting patriotic liberal and conservative Americans that love this country.
Only 2% of Americans, 6M, have actually served since 9-11 and all that flowed from it.
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