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Old 01-19-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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in essence the older local population has lost faith in the future and in the virtues of its own civilization.
Western Europe is inherently suicidal.
This sounds sad.
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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Re: 'Germany might be lost in a generation ... A mess'

You know just for one who looks with keen interest on the demography and cultures of Europe
I'd just note we're in the 21st and we have seen how Europe failed in quelling unrest between countries and their ethnicities back on the 20th. Today, Germany should be lauded for seeing the European future....if it wants to exist. There cannot be no rest for the continent if demographics and ethnic populations are in a state of great entropy. Germany , at the last, offers a relief valve and a look at how one dynamic country knows that immigration can and will help solve the problems of European states in the 21st.

If the European behavior of xenophobia consistently makes itself felt Europe is just pushing back the inevitable. And if they continually do that that it will not bode well for future life on the continent. For the simple reason that energy dissipated in looking with disdain on the 'other' exhausts states in their effort to apply energy to forge new paths. Europe has to wake up to new dawns on the horizon. It's staring the continent in the face and ignored with peril.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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I hope the native peoples stay and fight for their country and culture and their politicians get their head out of their anus and stop giving in to muslim demands.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:29 AM
 
Location: the dairyland
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Calculated roughly, in 2014, 26 of 80 million inhabitants were 30 years old or younger, 30% of them no ethnic Germans.
I bet those 30% are not all Muslim immigrants, right? The majority of those "non ethnic Germans" are probably other Europeans and if I remember correctly, this number also includes everyone who migrated to Germany since WWII. Many people from Eastern Europe who are perfectly integrated for the most part.

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The folks above 30 years are no longer significantly relevant for procreation and Germany experienced a Muslim immigration of about 1 million men younger than 30 years old in 2015; this means if 9 million more Muslims would immigrate to Germany within the next years, ethnic Germans in the relevant age could be only half of the population in the relevant age within a decade - the higher birthrate of Muslims migrants not counted.
The folks above 30 are pretty relevant for "procreation" in Western societies. Where did you get the number of 9 million immigrants from? Why don't you just say 15 million, to make it sound even more dramatic?

You said yourself that the majority of those refugees are men. You are aware that it requires the birds and the bees, right? I don't see how this is going to have an effect on the birth rate of Muslims in Germany unless they find German girlfriends, which most likely are not going to raise their children as IS soldiers. In that case Germany would be doomed indeed.

Last edited by Rob702; 01-20-2016 at 12:38 AM.. Reason: corrected a typo
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Old 01-20-2016, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Forecasting demographics isn't simply mathematics.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Forecasting demographics isn't simply mathematics.
Well it is a scenario. Last year arrived one million immigrants. 9 millions more within the next years and they would be on par with ethnic Germans in the relevant age. If the current policy is not stopped, this is likely to happen, of course it will be stopped, if not by Germany then by surrounding countries. It will cause a shift to the right in politics and Muslim immigration might be stopped in general.

Of course not all people that have immigrated to Germany in the past are Muslims, but I suppose the birth rate of European immigrants is as low as of ethnic Germans so that Muslims should be predominant among persons with immigration background.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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Well it is a scenario. Last year arrived one million immigrants. 9 millions more within the next years and they would be on par with ethnic Germans in the relevant age. If the current policy is not stopped, this is likely to happen, of course it will be stopped, if not by Germany then by surrounding countries. It will cause a shift to the right in politics and Muslim immigration might be stopped in general.

Of course not all people that have immigrated to Germany in the past are Muslims, but I suppose the birth rate of European immigrants is as low as of ethnic Germans so that Muslims should be predominant among persons with immigration background.

The problem is that the immigration is heavily sweked in terms of gender. 90%+ of the unaccompanied 16-17 years olds are males... which will generate a heave gender unbalance in most european antions, specially in germany and sweden...
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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^ so they'll partner up with German females, hastening the decline of Germans even faster.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Well it is a scenario.
It's not a scenario, it's something you made up.
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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^ so they'll partner up with German females, hastening the decline of Germans even faster.
So the collusion of slutty women and Muslims will be the downfall of Germany?
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