"Muslims" in Europe: Where do the chavvy ones generally come from? (country, people)
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I remember reading that three ethnic groups get bad racism/classism in Europe: Gypsies, Muslims and Blacks.
Gypsies are self-explanitory and mainly affect Central Europe.
Blacks are also self-explanitory from a US perspective, though I believe that Blacks tend to be more lower class in EU than in US.
Muslims are more confusing, since each country has a different ethnic group who's image is attached to the "Muslim" stereotype. The image always involves chavviness (uneducated, criminals, pedophiles, riots, etc) but is often held by a different ethnicity depending on the country involved.
Good grief... let's pick apart the white ethnic groups that contribute to "chavviness" instead... after all, that's the demographic where chavviness originated in the first place.
People forget that there are some wealthy pockets of Muslims in Europe, as well as the regular working class and middle class Muslims, blacks, and so on.
People forget that there are some wealthy pockets of Muslims in Europe, as well as the regular working class and middle class Muslims, blacks, and so on.
This posts reeks of ignorance, how is racism and xenophobia against anyone self-explainatory? Not even Romas as there are certain ones who have decided to integrate into our society and are valuable members of it.
I will still try to address the post, Blacks (a large percentage of them) come from Subsaharian Africa, especially Western Africa. They are mostly economic migrants who have first came here through illegal methods but once they settle, they integrate into society very quickly. They make the effort to learn the language and to fit in, at least that's what i have experienced in Italy.
The same goes for Muslims but there's a larger number of them who try to resist change. I have also noticed that their women especially (talking of the veiled ones because there's no other way to tell a North African or a Middle Eastern from an Italian) have the tendency to keep to themselves and to group in only between themselves. There are rarely specific shops for Western Africans (except hairdressers but that's self explainatory ) but there are several for Muslims. That said, i think a majority of them is still well integrated despite what far right wing parties and City Data users (most of them Americans who've never been to Europe= would have you believe
And so what? We had to study in school that ITaly was one fo the few European countries to avoid a hard crisis in the early 20th century because most of the people who had left the country for the Americas and Northern Europe sent money back to their homeland keeping the country afloat so this isn't anything new.
And so what? We had to study in school that ITaly was one fo the few European countries to avoid a hard crisis in the early 20th century because most of the people who had left the country for the Americas and Northern Europe sent money back to their homeland keeping the country afloat so this isn't anything new.
So what... they aren't paying any taxes in the country that adopted them.
So what... they aren't paying any taxes in the country that adopted them.
They sure are more often than not. And in the same way there are some who don't pay anything, i know of several Italians who have found all imaginable ways to avoid paying even a cent of their own money. I mean, last year only 50% paid the public television tax and that was only €113
That isn't just black immigrants... East Asians and South Asians and South and Central Americans do the exact same thing, at least many of the ones I've met in Canada do that. Those wired payments are often called "remittances" here. I don't see a connection to "chavviness" either...
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) but there are several for Muslims. That said, i think a majority of them is still well integrated despite what far right wing parties and City Data users (most of them Americans who've never been to Europe= would have you believe
