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1. I am not sure what you mean I don't think in those terms my thoughts don't follow in alignment with one particular party although I am a social liberal on most issues.
Not saying you follow a certain party, I am just saying that when he criticizes Americans, you don't feel he is criticizing yourself. You feel that he is criticizing your ideological enemies, and hence you don't feel insulted.
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2. Really then how is diversity primarily classified within India, China, and the continent of Africa? There are 56 ethnic groups that are indigenous to China and my understanding is that regardless of race if you are not a member of one of those you will be seen as a foreigner regardless of your race. I think many Europeans have a dislike for Muslim ideology and don't trust these Muslim "migrants" to be near their daughters, wives, and mothers for good reason I must say.
Its all about skin color in China. If you are one of those minorities, they will still consider you one of them if you move to the cities. But if you look different, then they won't. A non-Asian born in China, will always be considered a foreigner due to his skin color. The idea that just Americans care about skin color is totally bogus.
My point about Europe is that its not just about the religion. Those people who dislike Muslims, will get disgusted by Arabs/Africans in general, even though some of them are non-Muslim. If they only focused on religion, then they would only show disgust when they see Muslims wearing religious clothing.
So even in progressive Europe, skin color is a factor.
Not saying you follow a certain party, I am just saying that when he criticizes Americans, you don't feel he is criticizing yourself. You feel that he is criticizing your ideological enemies, and hence you don't feel insulted.
Its all about skin color in China. If you are one of those minorities, they will still consider you one of them if you move to the cities. But if you look different, then they won't. A non-Asian born in China, will always be considered a foreigner due to his skin color. The idea that just Americans care about skin color is totally bogus.
My point about Europe is that its not just about the religion. Those people who dislike Muslims, will get disgusted by Arabs/Africans in general, even though some of them are non-Muslim.If they only focused on religion, then they would only show disgust when they see Muslims wearing religious clothing.
So even in progressive Europe, skin color is a factor.
1.Okay now you are moving the goal post which has not gone unnoticed. I never mentioned that "just Americans care about skin color"(straw man argument). My point was that in the USA diversity is primarily defined by race whereas culture bears more weight in the places I mentioned.
2.There is a difference between having a dislike for Islam and "being disgusted by Arabs/Africans in general"(Don't know anyone in that category).
3. I have no experience with witnessing anyone showing disgust can't comment on that.
1.Okay now you are moving the goal post which has not gone unnoticed. I never mentioned that "just Americans care about skin color"(straw man argument). My point was that in the USA diversity is primarily defined by race whereas culture bears more weight in the places I mentioned.
2.There is a difference between having a dislike for Islam and "being disgusted by Arabs/Africans in general"(Don't know anyone in that category).
3. I have no experience with witnessing anyone showing disgust can't comment on that.
4. Culture bears more weight however.
Actually you are moving the goal post. This is what I answered
"Outside America, diversity doesn't necessarily mean racial diversity."
and this is what you said
"Most of the world does not define diversity as it is defined in the USA what is so hard to understand."
I am just saying this is bogus. Diversity is not defined very differently outside the US. Both inside and outside the US, there are plenty of people who define diversity after skin color. And in both places there are people who do the opposite.
Spain shares border with a Muslim country.
Portugal and Italy, although they have no land border, are very close to Muslim countries and do have maritime borders.
I've never heard that Spain has borders with a muslim country, unless you mean Gibraltar or France 0_0.
And even if they do have it's not comparable like that: Turkey is huge country and power + next to Syria, which makes Bulgaria(7 million) separated by one Muslim country(Turkey) to Syria. How is this less dangerous than Spain or Italy with their maritime borders? That was my point I was trying to make. That's why is worse for Greece also.
Actually you are moving the goal post. This is what I answered
"Outside America, diversity doesn't necessarily mean racial diversity."
and this is what you said "Most of the world does not define diversity as it is defined in the USA what is so hard to understand."
I am just saying this is bogus. Diversity is not defined very differently outside the US. Both inside and outside the US, there are plenty of people who define diversity after skin color. And in both places there are people who do the opposite.
Actually I have not changed the goal post.
1.That was Ariete's statement.
2. That was my statement I stand by it in the USA diversity is primarily thought of in terms of race whereas culture bears more weight overall outside of the USA that is the case in Europe, Africa, India, China and other places as well.
Where I live that would given him up to one year in jail which I think is good. It is likely however by the third try someone would have taken him out.
Where I live that would given him up to one year in jail which I think is good. It is likely however by the third try someone would have taken him out.
Wonder why you Americans are so anal about guns in public places
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