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I am pretty sure Germans are sick of having to Change their lifestyle, and become minorities in their own country because of these economic migrants...I don't see anything wrong with it.
Now storming a country's border demanding that you open it with violence is a different story.
80% of these people are economic migrants. They were safe in Turkey. They chose to pay thousands of dollars to smugglers to get them to Greece. Hence the word, they are economic migrants.
The only lifestyle change Germans are embracing is chasing after refugee buses to stop them and abuse the people inside until they start crying.
Also Germany isn't so scarcely populated that the germans are going to become a minority in their own country, ever.
The Fyromians and the Byzantines should act together in this, for the first time in their history, rather then calling out to Bulgaria again for "solution".
They should give all the migrants the necessary documents to reach Northern Europe (especially Sweden, Germany and Austria), they seemed so happy when all the migrants arrived the last summer, right?
Wasn't Hungary the 4th Reich? Weren't Swedes and Germans all ready with their 'welcome refugees'?
Don't immigrants want to solely go to Northern Europe? Who are we to stop them?
Why should Greece or Italy bear the burden of the German folly? Let them have their resources.
They should give all the migrants the necessary documents to reach Northern Europe (especially Sweden, Germany and Austria), they seemed so happy when all the migrants arrived the last summer, right?
Wasn't Hungary the 4th Reich? Weren't Swedes and Germans all ready with their 'welcome refugees'?
Don't immigrants want to solely go to Northern Europe? Who are we to stop them?
Why should Greece or Italy bear the burden of the German folly? Let them have their resources.
The problem is , all the country's to the North are only accepting Iraqi and Syrian. So all the country's in between are afraid that if they let all in then they will get stuck in their country. They are basically saying stay in greece and be stuck, instead of being stuck in our own country.
Austria criticized Hungary last year for their wall and quotas, but now they have done the same exact thing as them . Realizing that they will eventually be over - ran if they do not enforce a "controlled immigration" policy.
Merkel needs to make a speech and say that Europes closed. Otherwise, they will keep coming.
Merkel's immigration policy is suicide . You need to have controlled immigration. You cannot just open your borders to anyone. It is ludacris
The problem is , all the country's to the North are only accepting Iraqi and Syrian. So all the country's in between are afraid that if they let all in then they will get stuck in their country. They are basically saying stay in greece and be stuck, instead of being stuck in our own country.
Austria criticized Hungary last year for their wall and quotas, but now they have done the same exact thing as them . Realizing that they will eventually be over - ran if they do not enforce a "controlled immigration" policy.
Merkel needs to make a speech and say that Europes closed. Otherwise, they will keep coming.
Merkel's immigration policy is suicide . You need to have controlled immigration. You cannot just open your borders to anyone. It is ludacris
I know but Northerners have ignored the situation in the South for years posing as morally superior beings, now they can abide by their kindness and receive all immigrants: after all, immigrants want explicitly to reach Germany and Sweden (or Northern Europe), so why should we be so racist to stop them?
Northern Europe is one of the cradle of multiculturalism and racial coexistence, how can they now refuse to receive all these new poor refugees?
This is one of the problems we had highlighted when Austria, Macedonia, Hungary, Serbia all closed their borders. They are basically putting more pressure on an economically disastered country such as Greece and will increase the influence of radical parties such as the Communists (these ones aren't only in name) and Neo Nazis (Goldenn Dawn) who already have 15% of support between the two of them.
Greece has one of the largest armies in Europe, they could guard their borders if they wanted and take the migrants back to Turkey. Greece even threatened to let all migrants travel further to Europe even if ISIS members would be among them.
Greece has one of the largest armies in Europe, they could guard their borders if they wanted and take the migrants back to Turkey. Greece even threatened to let all migrants travel further to Europe even if ISIS members would be among them.
But.. but... wasn't Germany able to receive 800,000 migrants per year?
Wasn't Germany ready to 'this new challenge, to integrate these resources'?
Greece has one of the largest armies in Europe, they could guard their borders if they wanted and take the migrants back to Turkey. Greece even threatened to let all migrants travel further to Europe even if ISIS members would be among them.
Greece has a large army but that means little, at the moment they can't control their own seas with the current influx of immigrants. In fact, you must also take into account all the cuts anything that was public funded has received in the last couple years and the training their military and navy receive.
Aside from that, it's clear that Tsipras is currently having a hard time fixing the hotspots (identification and asylum request center) Frontex had requested. They must simply make a choice between letting them drown causing contempt from both the EU and Turkey or try to take care of them despite being unprepared. It's clear they can't sort it out by themselves and that they need help in completing the hotspots.
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How dare countries secure their borders!
I'm OUTRAGED!
I can understand a country not agreeing to Schengen pulling it out but not how a country that's in it such as Austria or Hungary attempting it. After all, unification is what the EU is all about, they are putting up walls instead and letting nationalistic ideals and their own interests get in the way where the issue almost doesn't affect them as much as Germany, France and Scandinavian countries.
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I know but Northerners have ignored the situation in the South for years posing as morally superior beings, now they can abide by their kindness and receive all immigrants: after all, immigrants want explicitly to reach Germany and Sweden (or Northern Europe), so why should we be so racist to stop them?
Northern Europe is one of the cradle of multiculturalism and racial coexistence, how can they now refuse to receive all these new poor refugees?
That's true but those countries who are taking on most of the burden are on our side now, it's countries who oppose Renzi's tentative to change the Dubliun agreements and work out a redistribution system amongst EU countries that we should blame now.
It's the likes of Hungary, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, the whole Eastern bloc that's the problem.They aren't willing to take their fair share despite the fact that their economy's rising.
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The problem is , all the country's to the North are only accepting Iraqi and Syrian. So all the country's in between are afraid that if they let all in then they will get stuck in their country. They are basically saying stay in greece and be stuck, instead of being stuck in our own country.
Austria criticized Hungary last year for their wall and quotas, but now they have done the same exact thing as them . Realizing that they will eventually be over - ran if they do not enforce a "controlled immigration" policy.
Merkel needs to make a speech and say that Europes closed. Otherwise, they will keep coming.
Merkel's immigration policy is suicide . You need to have controlled immigration. You cannot just open your borders to anyone. It is ludacris
But that's what Merkel wants, she just doesn't want it enough, first of all instead of funding Turkey he should have gave those resources to Greece so that they could complete the work for a more reliable border control and then sign a similar treaty with Turkey as the one that Italy had signed with Libya (basically taking care of economical migrants in change of a yearly sum to be paid by the EU)
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I am pretty sure Germans are sick of having to Change their lifestyle, and become minorities in their own country because of these economic migrants...I don't see anything wrong with it.
Now storming a country's border demanding that you open it with violence is a different story.
80% of these people are economic migrants. They were safe in Turkey. They chose to pay thousands of dollars to smugglers to get them to Greece. Hence the word, they are economic migrants.
Sorry but Germans will never become a minority in their own countries, stop seeing propaganda videos and such. It will take years even at the current rate which is most likely going to slow down this year already as Syrian Civil War comes to a halt with the signing of the ceasefire.
Aside from that, if you had relatives (even distant ones) living in Germany or Sweden wouldn't you try to go there? Also, there are very little chances for them to thrive in Turkey, the either stay inside refugee camps where they usually aren't fed, treated up to decent standards, ecc., try to find a work in Turkey, a country that actually doesn't want them or try to search a better future in Europe.
I meant to say city. There were cities that had 500 ethnic Germans and in one week they received over 4000k refugees. Making them the minority.
A small amount of these people are refugees. They need to stay where it is safe, then return home after the conflict is over. Not pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled in illegally.
If I were one of them. I would stay in my Country and fight the problem, running away won't make it better.
But.. but... wasn't Germany able to receive 800,000 migrants per year?
Wasn't Germany ready to 'this new challenge, to integrate these resources'?
That's what our elites said, the common people was not asked.
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Sorry but Germans will never become a minority in their own countries, stop seeing propaganda videos and such. It will take years even at the current rate which is most likely going to slow down this year already as Syrian Civil War comes to a halt with the signing of the ceasefire.
Probably not in the whole country, but there are already towns and regions were Muslims are the majority or at least amongst the youngsters, a third of Muslim population would be worse enough, do you have an idea how much it would change society?
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