Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-01-2016, 02:46 AM
 
5,214 posts, read 4,025,201 times
Reputation: 3468

Advertisements

Next in line:

Both countries will find a way to blame Bulgaria and send all the refugees to the Bulgarian border. Or...as unwilling to admit I am: Greece and Bulgaria will side vs Macedonia as their name is "fake" and Serbia whining again to their brothers from Russia will take over Macedonia and throw out the refugees from there to Greece and Bulgaria.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-01-2016, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Estonia
1,704 posts, read 1,838,977 times
Reputation: 2293
Quote:
Originally Posted by improb View Post



I can understand a country not agreeing to Schengen pulling it out but not how a country that's in it such as Austria or Hungary attempting it. After all, unification is what the EU is all about, they are putting up walls instead and letting nationalistic ideals and their own interests get in the way where the issue almost doesn't affect them as much as Germany, France and Scandinavian countries.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the idea behind creating Schengen must have been that people from Schengen member countries can move freely, but this freedom wouldn't extend to illegal migrants without papers, who run down fences and force their way through while yelling allahu akbar. Schengen can work only then when the outer borders are secured, it can't work when it is a walk through alley to whoever wishes to pass through. And since Greece is just a big pile of ... it is totally justified that its neighbors set up fences.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 06:48 AM
 
5,214 posts, read 4,025,201 times
Reputation: 3468
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuuKulgur View Post
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the idea behind creating Schengen must have been that people from Schengen member countries can move freely, but this freedom wouldn't extend to illegal migrants without papers, who run down fences and force their way through while yelling allahu akbar. Schengen can work only then when the outer borders are secured, it can't work when it is a walk through alley to whoever wishes to pass through. And since Greece is just a big pile of ... it is totally justified that its neighbors set up fences.
Pretty much, I agree 100%.
Couple of days ago some Western EU ambassador (UK/Dutch/Germany) said that "Bulgaria can forget about Schengen for now" - and the idiot was bold enough to say this as if it's some sort of a threat...
I mean what's next, the German ambassador saying that "Jews can forget about Auschwitz for now"?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,821,814 times
Reputation: 11103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmyp25 View Post
I meant to say city. There were cities that had 500 ethnic Germans and in one week they received over 4000k refugees. Making them the minority.
No, there aren't. The refugees are not staying in the village. They are passing trough it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 07:27 AM
 
1,600 posts, read 1,890,147 times
Reputation: 2066
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuuKulgur View Post
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the idea behind creating Schengen must have been that people from Schengen member countries can move freely, but this freedom wouldn't extend to illegal migrants without papers, who run down fences and force their way through while yelling allahu akbar. Schengen can work only then when the outer borders are secured, it can't work when it is a walk through alley to whoever wishes to pass through. And since Greece is just a big pile of ... it is totally justified that its neighbors set up fences.
How so?
Weren't enlightened and progressive Northern Europeans that pitied the racist Southerners from their superior morality?
Weren't Northerners the 'progressives' determined to save these resources?
Weren't Germans those who blamed racist Hungarians for trying to block and identify them while Germans, Austrians and Swedes were all 'welcome refugees'?
Now you racist Northerners deflect from your previous assertions?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
7,501 posts, read 6,296,223 times
Reputation: 3761
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuuKulgur View Post
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the idea behind creating Schengen must have been that people from Schengen member countries can move freely, but this freedom wouldn't extend to illegal migrants without papers, who run down fences and force their way through while yelling allahu akbar. Schengen can work only then when the outer borders are secured, it can't work when it is a walk through alley to whoever wishes to pass through. And since Greece is just a big pile of ... it is totally justified that its neighbors set up fences.
Well, since Schengen does not concern Migrants, that means they have to stay in Italy and Greece, which are the countries in which they arrive. I guess that's convenient for Northern European or Central European countries then.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Estonia
1,704 posts, read 1,838,977 times
Reputation: 2293
Quote:
Originally Posted by xander.XVII View Post
How so?
How so what?
Quote:
Weren't enlightened and progressive Northern Europeans that pitied the racist Southerners from their superior morality?
Probably maybe, I don't know.
Quote:
Weren't Northerners the 'progressives' determined to save these resources?
Yes, and isn't it the job of you, the racist Southerners, to keep those 'resources' out
Quote:
Weren't Germans those who blamed racist Hungarians for trying to block and identify them while Germans, Austrians and Swedes were all 'welcome refugees'?
Yes, that's why the fence business is booming.
Quote:
Now you racist Northerners deflect from your previous assertions?
I'm confused now, you think that Greece shouldn't be fenced out by its neighbors?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,821,814 times
Reputation: 11103
Quote:
Originally Posted by xander.XVII View Post
How so?
Weren't enlightened and progressive Northern Europeans that pitied the racist Southerners from their superior morality?
Weren't Northerners the 'progressives' determined to save these resources?
Weren't Germans those who blamed racist Hungarians for trying to block and identify them while Germans, Austrians and Swedes were all 'welcome refugees'?
Now you racist Northerners deflect from your previous assertions?
The Baltic States are filled with people who are as newly arisen racist droolmouths as you are. Come on, the Latvians were protesting when 12 refugees entered their country. Twelve. And Latvians have harassed and even banned pride marches, as they are something or something. So much for superior morality.

Germany took those refugees in Hungary only for humanitarian reasons, as in Hungary they were kept in KZ lagers and fed pepper spray.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Estonia
1,704 posts, read 1,838,977 times
Reputation: 2293
Don't pay attention to Ariete, he is totally crazed from making love to polar bears, the polar bear protein disables his brain to express sound sentences.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Georgia
3,987 posts, read 2,114,008 times
Reputation: 3111
Quote:
Originally Posted by KuuKulgur View Post
How dare countries secure their borders!

I'm OUTRAGED!
They are certainly doing more than Obama to secure borders!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:25 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top