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Old 03-09-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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It could be that Wikipedia's numbers simply don't hold true, it looked fishy since the first moment that Tyumen would be wealthier on the whole than Moscow and that Chukotka and Sakhalin (Russian Far Eastern regions would be on the same level as the country's capital) but then again Numbeo's numbers (an average of 507$ a month against Wikipedia's 4800$) could be just as wrong

Anyway, Tyumen looks a well maintaned city, not much different from Kazan, Saint Petersburg and Moscow when it comes to wealth
The US is famously known for having huge income inequality, also the Far East has a lot of natural resource extraction and low population. For instance Sakhalin is famous for natural gas. Sakha Republic is famous for dimonds, and Magadan oblast is known for their gold mines.
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Old 03-10-2016, 02:55 AM
 
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Actually you know nothing about how GDP work. GDP is calculated by adding all transactions together in a certain area. If a rich person buys a expensive gold watch, then GDP increases.

Rich people tend to buy expensive things, so its not hard to guess what happens with the local GDP per capita.
Not all the transactions but the value added on these transactions.

Secondly what's matter as I said is not where this rich person live but where is located the shop where he bought the expensive gold watch as well as the place where the watch was built and etc.

A town with no job and a wealthy population will have a low GDP per capita.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Not all the transactions but the value added on these transactions.

Secondly what's matter as I said is not where this rich person live but where is located the shop where he bought the expensive gold watch as well as the place where the watch was built and etc.

A town with no job and a wealthy population will have a low GDP per capita.
Good luck trying to find a region with a lot of rich people, but there are no jobs. Obviously the people earning these high salaries, also need to work somewhere. And most people do not like to travel for many hours to get to work.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Not regions (it depends what you are defining as region) but towns, yes. Lot of suburbs.
Note that region with a large population of retired get lower GDP per capita.

Using a too small level makes no sense for GDP per capita, they should not show GDP per capita of anything smaller than a metropolitan area (jobs areas + commuters areas).
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Old 03-10-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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Using a too small level makes no sense for GDP per capita, they should not show GDP per capita of anything smaller than a metropolitan area (jobs areas + commuters areas).
I even really doubt that GDP per capita for metro areas make sense. Eurostat release PPP adjusted GDP figures for the single regions in Europe. I live in Nordrhein-Westfalen in the administration district of Düsseldorf (population about 5.1m). I also know the adjacent administration district of Münster (population about 2.6m) very well.
The PPP adjusted GDP figures from Eurostat (EU=100):

Düsseldorf: 134
Münster: 109

According to those figures, the administration district of Düsseldorf should be significant richer than the administration district of Münster. But that's in my opinion not the case. It's actually very similar.
I'm absolutely sure that the statistical authorities are unable to adjust the GDP figures for the purchasing power. For example they don't have the needed data about the housing costs for all regions. No statistical authority in Germany collect such data for different regions.
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Old 03-10-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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Düsseldorf region has more highly productive jobs and big compagnies than Münster, a higher GDP per capita is not surprising.
That's what shows the GDP per capita, it is not exact representation of the wealth of the population.
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Old 03-10-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Good luck trying to find a region with a lot of rich people, but there are no jobs. Obviously the people earning these high salaries, also need to work somewhere. And most people do not like to travel for many hours to get to work.
Not sure what you mean as region, but there are loads of places in Europe with rich people and few jobs. Resort areas, tax havens, the tiny euro countries like San Marino and Monaco, half the Swiss cantons, the French Riviera, etc.

Or maybe you literally meant "no" jobs as in zero. I suppose that couldn't possibly exist as even the idle rich need support staff.
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Old 03-10-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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About Monaco, this is not true, Monaco is full of jobs.
There are more jobs than inhabitants in Monaco.
In 2013, there were 50,792 salaried jobs in Monaco but only 36,950 inhabitants.
The majority of the people working in Monaco live in France.
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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Norway has nicer natural surroundings, but to be fair... Oslo's residential architecture is not that much different than what's in those Russian photos. It doesn't have the taller buildings but the shorter buildings in the photo are quite similar to what you'll see in Oslo (and all of Scandinavia and Germany for that matter).

https://goo.gl/maps/8z5akKrLTaF2
Trondheimsveien is actually one of the uglier streets in Oslo.

Some places nearby in Eastern Oslo:
https://goo.gl/maps/3wK3bqLDjbo
https://goo.gl/maps/6EVAgykwx7n
https://goo.gl/maps/e9mBF2sQ7kn
https://goo.gl/maps/yTRfNyT31T22
https://goo.gl/maps/2msRLUd5cuw

Oslo is far from the prettiest city in Europe, but the average architecture if far more appealing than what you find in former Eastern Bloc cities (East Berlin inclued).
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